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YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by ki85squared »

exolymph wrote: post #55
daveloyall wrote: post #51

Grr... Is google seeking praise for slightly loosening the shackles? This "YouTube Go" MIGHT be a media player. It MIGHT operate on files. It MIGHT be possible to share a video via some mechanism other than bluetooth. The other day I was trying to convince to a user that she should want to own her content, rather than rent it... when I suddenly realized that he doesn't know what a file is. Moreover, he doesn't realiz…

Owning is just so much less convenient than renting access. I vastly prefer the experience of using Spotify and Netflix to the experience of maintaining my own music and media collections.

While I agree, renting access often comes with the trade-off of losing control of your content. Netflix's content licensing agreements are finite, and your favorite movie or show could be gone next week. When you own the files, you own them for however long you desire.

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Post by Cyph0n »

joncalhoun wrote: post #57
jonthepirate wrote: post #49

I would love the ability to leave a video playing on my phone when I turn the screen off. I often will listen to a song but as soon as the app minimizes or the phone goes to sleep mode, it stops.

You can do this on Android. At least I can, as a Google music subscriber (so I have YouTube Red). I just tested it with a random video.

Why isn't this a free feature though?

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Post by FussyZeus »

> But even as they discover the joys of YouTube, their experience is not great on slower connections and less powerful mobile phones.

Why not just make this the norm? Websites do not need to be 6 MB per page (and that's with an adblocker). Google is one of the worst offenders when it comes to website bloat, including their once-famously incredibly simple search page which is now jam packed with tons of features, both requested and the majority not requested by anyone.

The notion that an HTML 5 web page requires so much extra fluff to accomplish something as simple as streaming video with recommended links and a comments section is maddening.

Just because some of us have bigger, faster phones with more bandwidth doesn't mean you need to make things more complicated.

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Post by bonjurkes »

"While in Nagpur, I met a young man who loved using YouTube to watch WWE wrestling and wanted to show us his favorite video. But after he found it and tapped to play, the video just wouldn’t load"

I believe this is really bad example, as WWE is a "premium content" so you have to pay extra to watch it. Therefore Youtube removes those videos (there is only 2 WWE videos which is from legal accounts).

So it's pretty awkward example just as "the young man in Nagpur wants to watch Game of Thrones with his HBO Go membership but he can't because of he is poor internet connection."

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by joncalhoun »

Cyph0n wrote: post #72
joncalhoun wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do this on Android. At least I can, as a Google music subscriber (so I have YouTube Red). I just tested it with a random video.

Why isn't this a free feature though?

I don't know.

Maybe it has something to do with them not being able to show you ads when you video ads when your screen is minimized. Or maybe it is to prevent people from using youtube as an alternative to paying for google music.

Regardless, I posted my original comment because it seems a bit disingenuous to say that this feature isn't available when it is (at least in the US). You just have to pay for it.

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Post by joncalhoun »

macspoofing wrote: post #64
joncalhoun wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do this on Android. At least I can, as a Google music subscriber (so I have YouTube Red). I just tested it with a random video.

And if you're not in US?

No idea. Sorry :(

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Post by CaptSpify »

thampiman wrote: post #18
jkot wrote: post #6

I think this is great idea. Many users are watching youtube offline.

Do you have any stats on youtube usage? Personally I don't use the offline feature very much.

I'm wondering if that's because of where you live? In the US at least, if your not in a top 10 city, chances are your data connection is terrible.

Re: YouTube Go: YouTube reimagined for the next generation of YouTube viewers

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Post by r00fus »

Cyph0n wrote: post #72
joncalhoun wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do this on Android. At least I can, as a Google music subscriber (so I have YouTube Red). I just tested it with a random video.

Why isn't this a free feature though?

Good question, one that probably has less to do with what Google wants, and what the music industry requires. If you turn off the screen, the "video" is indistinguishable from an audio stream. So they want to track for terms of royalties paid per "listen".

This is only feasible on a subscription basis (no one has a good microtransaction model with actual payments) and so Google and the music industry limited the feature to only subscription based.

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Post by joncalhoun »

dubcanada wrote: post #13
gtirloni wrote: post #7

I don't understand why a new app if this could just be an additional feature in the current app. Doesn't this lead to fragmentation and confusion?

Yes, but Google is exceptionally good at fragmentation and confusion in regards to products. How many gmail apps do they have? Inbox, gmail, android mail (though this got deprecated), web interface, etc. Youtube now has 2 apps, a web interface. They seem to like to make new stuff, rather then upgrade their existing stuff. Then every second year they just go through their stack and deprecate 30% of it.

While I agree fragmentation can be bad, YouTube is one area where I think this makes sense. What a gamer wants in an app is going to be very different to what someone seeking educational content is going to want.

Similarly, a kids app is very useful given how many kids are growing up using cheap tablets to stream videos, and I know from watching my nephews that the way they use YouTube is very different from how I use it.

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Post by brainspider »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #66

Google still doesn't know what it's doing with YouTube. As a longtime consumer of YouTube videos, and somebody who is actually inside of the YouTube community, I understand that. The "Advertiser Friendly" policy was universally mocked for being absurd, and it is. Then there's the indication that it was behind the inexplicable monetization drops on major channels a few months back. The YouTube team has been seen to do…

I'm amazed they had to go all the way to India to figure this out. But I'm often amazed at how little Google understand "social." The cynical side of me wonders if their misunderstanding is all intentional.
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