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Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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I'd just like give everyone a reminder, >The most important principle on HN, though, is to make thoughtful comments. Thoughtful in both senses: civil and substantial. "Google Glass 2.0" and similar cheap bashing isn't just against the rules, it's boring and petty. Take it to 4chan, you'll get the attention you're after.

There is cheap bashing in this thread, but "google glass 2.0" is not it. That just sounds like unobservent judgment.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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An alternative way of thinking about this is that we're fortunate that our needs are so well provided for that we can focus on entertainment and life enrichment. A camera at eye level is extremely useful for many reasons, snapchat is just one, excellent use case. In my own life, I have a use for that specific tool, and am glad it exists - Google Glass was never widely released. And the price is great - at $129 this s…

>An alternative way of thinking about this is that we're fortunate that our needs are so well provided for that we can focus on entertainment and life enrichment. It's a nice way of thinking of it and hopefully it's true one day, but unless "our" means the typical HN reader, I don't think we're there yet. Consider that in the US in 2015, 43.1 million people were living in poverty (13.5% poverty rate) [1], and income…

Considering the snark was directed at the comments on this post, I'm certain "our" means us HN readers/commenters.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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This is a dead-end product. People aren't going to wear this, because they don't want to creep out people by having a camera pointed at them all the time. This was the real problem with Google Glass. Also, everyone already carries around a camera in their smartphone. They aren't going to add another.

Comments like this always remind me of when camera phones were controversial and had to make a loud clicking noise when they took pictures so everyone knew it was happening. Fast forward 10-15 years and do you really know whether that person using their phone across from you on the bus isn't recording you? Nope.

Uh, yep? If you're using your phone for reading or some such, it is perhaps at a 45 degree angle to the horizontal, or even less. If you're sneaking a creep shot, the angle is much greater. You can always tell when someone is clicking a picture.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Even thought I'm not "inb4" Glass comparisons this really does hit a market that I think is untapped. I used to have a "flipcam". It was before I had a phone with the ability to take HD video and before a GoPro was a choice for me because of cost (I still don't have a GoPro). The ability to have cheaper, stylish, handsfree video recording of my POV has a lot of potential. How-to videos, the "capturing memories" as no…

My first thought was "GoPro for parties". That's basically what this is.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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These glasses are going to be a huge hit thanks to their style. The main userbase of snapchat are product-hungy 12-25 year olds without much conviction; they'll jump at the chance to get a product that looks cool and represents their favourite timesink. I am very impressed with this move because it gives Snapchat a supplement to ad-based revenue. I hope this makes them a lot of money.

The above three comments to me summerise what has qualified as American Innovation for the last 15-20 years. When you are surrounded by the superficial, building things for the superficial what else can you produce other than the superficial. It is sad as hell to watch. It isn't ironic to me that Trump is going to be leading this bunch of innovators soon.

A few of the more significant American innovations in the last 15-20 years:

  -CRISPR, gene editing
  -iTunes, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc.
  -re-usable space rockets (Spacex and Blue Origin)
  -IBM's Watson and Deep Blue, Google's AlphaGo
  -LIGO's detection of gravitational waves
  -MIT's improvements in lithium ion technology
  -NASA's exploratory discoveries on Mars, Mercury, Pluto, Saturn, etc.
  -Google
  -Wikipedia
  -Facebook
  -Tesla
  -Uber
It's hardly been a drought.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Even thought I'm not "inb4" Glass comparisons this really does hit a market that I think is untapped. I used to have a "flipcam". It was before I had a phone with the ability to take HD video and before a GoPro was a choice for me because of cost (I still don't have a GoPro). The ability to have cheaper, stylish, handsfree video recording of my POV has a lot of potential. How-to videos, the "capturing memories" as no…

> If I were GoPro I'd be nervous.

Yeah... no.

I wouldn't skydive with those glasses.

Though "gopro for the rest of us" would be a good tagline.

The rest of your post is pretty spot on.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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I can't be the only one who thinks this is going to eat GoPro's lunch, am I? Sure the initial version may not be as high quality as a GoPro and the time limit isn't as good but those are easy things to fix and they have a monstrous social network (something GoPro is sorta trying to break into).

If anything kills GoPro it's something like this.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a dead-end product. People aren't going to wear this, because they don't want to creep out people by having a camera pointed at them all the time. This was the real problem with Google Glass. Also, everyone already carries around a camera in their smartphone. They aren't going to add another.

It's impossible for attractive, socially connected, young people to be creepy. So, it's pretty brilliant for Snapchat to be making this sort of thing. Probably the devices to hit the market will be given to a very carefully curated set of people, and ubiquitous surveillance by camera-glasses will become fashionable.

As a young person (age of the CEO of snapchat), I say, yes they fucking can.
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