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WhatsApp threatened with legal action in Germany over Facebook data sharing deal

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Re: WhatsApp threatened with legal action in Germany over Facebook data sharing deal

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> From a business perspective: what should FB and WhatsApp do? V e r y simple: stuck to the existing business model. Or: if they really needed to make it free for consumers: their second idea, free for consumers, charge for business access (api etc). I was actually looking forward to that. > As an aside: Telegram is not, and never will-be, a secure platform as has been detailed on HN by cryptographic experts when the…

> I can admit though that Telgrams marketing of their encryption has been at least borderline dishones. So, 100% Facebook free with a company that is borderline dishonest in how it communicates about the things we can confirm... Why is that the better devil?

Telegram was borderline dishonest.

Facebook is dishonest which is why consumer watchdogs are threatening to sue.

Re: WhatsApp threatened with legal action in Germany over Facebook data sharing deal

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Good! Time to move to telegram! And delete your facebook account! And uninstall whatsapp! I expect nothing less from HN.

Please do not use Telegram. It' closed source and uses some half-baked crypto. Signal is open source and is actually end-to-end encrypted.

Telegrams clients (and the e2e encryption) are open source. For instance: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram

Curious if you know why the crypto is half-baked. Has it been broken?

edit: found Signal server, I think: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure-Server

Nice it's out there. This will help Signal live a long time.

Re: WhatsApp threatened with legal action in Germany over Facebook data sharing deal

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What lesson are they supposed to draw from this? WhatsApp is free, popular and end to end encrypted. There is only one app that meets all those criteria, which is the one we're talking about. WhatsApp is probably not that expensive to run but it's also not free, and acquiring the company certainly wasn't. So Facebook have found a way to combine end to end encryption with an ad-supported business model: use the social…

>To me this seems like pure win: Facebook already had ads, so it's just a matter of them getting better. WhatsApp can be free for everyone in a sustainable way, instead of the western-iOS-users-get-to-pay-for-everyone model WhatsApp used before. In what way is that a win? Giving up my privacy to save $1/year? Please, I'll take privacy all day long. As for EU governments "hating" American companies: BS. They're actual…

If you're so worried about "giving up" your privacy, why do you have a Facebook account to begin with?
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