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Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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I am currently dual booting between Arch Linux and Windows 10. Moving to something like this one day makes me conflicted. On one hand I feel like I would betray open source, on the other hand I wouldn't have to restart my machine to play games...

Just take the Linus Torvalds school of open-source philosophy and don't give a shit whether your software is open source, closed source, free, or $299. Just use good software that makes you happy.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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WSL is really amazing, I hope they keep going. The devs have done a really good job and seem to be very open to suggestions.

The best software is always made by happy developers making software to make other developers happy.

This also applies to Visual Studio Code.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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You can run your host OS using the integrated graphics and assign the dedicated card to the Windows VM

I'm having a hard time finding any information about that. Anything you can point me to? Ideally, I'd like to use 2x1080 (sli) with Windows KVM guest and then use the integrated graphics for Linux host.

google keyword : GPU passthrough

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3lno0t/gpu_pa...

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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I'm having a hard time finding any information about that. Anything you can point me to? Ideally, I'd like to use 2x1080 (sli) with Windows KVM guest and then use the integrated graphics for Linux host.

google keyword : GPU passthrough https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3lno0t/gpu_pa...

Thanks! I've read up since the last post. Now I'm trying to decide if I can live without SLI.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. My Linux setup is secure, free of proprietary software and under my full control. When I run tcpdump, I'm met with a clean log where every packet is one I recognize. I get to use my favorite window manager (awesomewm) and I don't have to worry about forced updates. My Windows install is quite…

> Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. That's essentially how the windows subsystem works. It might not technically be a VM, but practically it is.

Don't know why you were downvoted without explanation, because that's my understanding how this new feature works. Just like the Posix subsystem before it, completely cut off from the Win32 subsystem. So, yeah, it feels like it would be like a VM to me.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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> Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. That's essentially how the windows subsystem works. It might not technically be a VM, but practically it is.

Don't know why you were downvoted without explanation, because that's my understanding how this new feature works. Just like the Posix subsystem before it, completely cut off from the Win32 subsystem. So, yeah, it feels like it would be like a VM to me.

> Don't know why you were downvoted without explanation

If past conversations on reddit are anything to go by it's because a lot of people don't want to recognize that WSL is essentially a VM. Docker too for that matter.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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It may be that Microsoft is doing their usual embrace and extend, perhaps the extinguish part is not possible these days. This is an interesting effect there, that due to WSL, there will be less perceived need to support windows for development tools. However, isn't WSL aimed mainly at developers? Regular users won't be turning it on. So if you're developing the next dropbox with clients written in Ruby, you'll still…

Correct, but a LOT of developers today write code that eventually runs on Linux in the cloud. With WSL, such developers using Windows will not leave for OS X/Linux

Hmm, perhaps it's really a move against OS X. If you actually run Linux you're probably committed.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Maybe I'm in the minority but I prefer keeping my GNU/Linux and Windows installations separate, with each OS on its own drive. My Linux setup is secure, free of proprietary software and under my full control. When I run tcpdump, I'm met with a clean log where every packet is one I recognize. I get to use my favorite window manager (awesomewm) and I don't have to worry about forced updates. My Windows install is quite…

It would be nice to be able to develop "native" Linux software right from within Windows where I'm doing other things. I can see the appeal. That's why Microsoft built the Linux subsystem, I suppose.

have you seen the VS GDB Debugger extension?

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2015/11/18/announcin...

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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I was so excited when Linux versions started showing up on Steam. It meant I very rarely needed to reboot into Windows. But, I've tinkered recently with Windows 10 and WSL, and it's actually really neat. They've done a remarkable job making it work like a real Linux system in a lot of regards; my projects kinda bump up against the limitations of that (as they are administrative tools and perform actions as root and s…

What kind scenarios do you find it useful in? I.e. when would you use it instead of native Linux for the same purpose?

I'm really excited about WSL:

My laptop: Gets 6 hours w/ windows.

My Desktop: Not having to manage dual-booting between Gaming & Hobby-Time programming... Being able to hack on python/node and deploy to my Pi, play a game of Overwatch, then working again.

If power management was something that I didn't have to spend hours to get right, I probably wouldn't be so dreamy-eyed over WSL... But they just finally figured out how to support Video Card Switching (Prime) after 5 years, I'm not holding out for any big improvements.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Don't know why you were downvoted without explanation, because that's my understanding how this new feature works. Just like the Posix subsystem before it, completely cut off from the Win32 subsystem. So, yeah, it feels like it would be like a VM to me.

> Don't know why you were downvoted without explanation If past conversations on reddit are anything to go by it's because a lot of people don't want to recognize that WSL is essentially a VM. Docker too for that matter.

WSL is definitely not a Virtual Machine, unless you're saying that WINE is also a VM, in which case you have a very broad definition of VM that's different from most other people.

The way WSL is implemented is actually really interesting. Linux syscalls are translated by an NT kernel driver and some other shims handle the NTFS->POSIX transition on the filesystem side.

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