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Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

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Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

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post #47

Try Ayahuasca. Its legal 100%, you can get components on ebay.com. Motivation guaranteed. Watch The Blueprint by Real Social Dynamics - how to get girls. Listen to some good trance music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkITM2UIYoU Read Tim Ferris book "Four Hour Work Week"

> Listen to some good trance music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkITM2UIYoU

Gosh, I want to like trance music, I really do. I like all of the most similar kinds of electronic music, but trance was always too spacey for me. Like, the link you posted - that seems like legitimately pretty good trance. It's got some interesting elements in it. But I still can't put in more than a few minutes with it.

Any thoughts? I keep wondering if I'm missing something, because a couple of my friends who like good music like trance, but I was never able to get into it.

Whilst on the subject, I will recommend minimal techno to anyone who likes electronic and hasn't heard it. An English friend of mine got me into it a year ago and it's very good background music while doing something else. Here's the top result in Youtube, seems decent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ETFTvKCGE

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#72
post #17

I started to go through this a few years ago and I'm slowly recovering from it (I'm 28 now). The experience cost me my marriage (although that may have been a good thing, looking back on it) but it also cost me a lot in terms of opportunity cost. You could write a book on this subject but my advice in a nutshell is to find a therapist. If you are like me (and most HN'ers) - highly logic brained - then it can be hard…

"who I am and what I want" So much of it is getting to know yourself and who you are.

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#74
I think the advice you're getting here is great, but I'd for sure add a big validation of therapy, and should it be right, medication.

Therapy is one of those things that, if you find the right therapist, sort of becomes like "why WOULDN'T I have a professional to help with this?" I saw someone in Chicago on and off for about three years post college to help with transitions.

I'm an extremely self-reliant person who doesn't ask for help, so it was a weird thing at first, but it became something I ended up really looking forward to. It was a place where, each week, I could dump anything and everything without any pretense, exchange, or fear of judgement. Your friends and family can and will always be willing to help, but frankly, it can put a lot of burden on those relationships to have it all on them, and I've found therapy to be extremely helpful.

I've also seen an extraordinarily high number of people successfully add medication to their regimen to really help. For some, anti-anxieties that can be used when needed make a world of difference. For others, SSIRs can really help with certain transitions. For still others, SSIRs and similar drugs are just something that become a permanent part of their life - my dad is like that and the whole family has been reaping the rewards of him "feeling like himself" again for ten years.

Honestly, it sounds like you are a super high functioning dude, and that's great. All I'd remind you is that just because you're high functioning and still able to keep moving, doesn't mean you don't want to leverage the full slate of available resources.

Always happy to talk about my experiences with therapy/meds. Info in profile.

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#75
My mentor, who's a wildly successful and brilliant entrepreneur and about twice my age said this to me today: your 20s are like Puberty 2.0. We had a two hour conversation and he's seen the same thing in his nephews and his students and former students (he was a b-school prof for a while before retiring).

My biggest problem seems trying to find what excites and motivates me and not feeling apathetic about all this web shit. I'm workin' on it.

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#76
This happens to me sometimes, and my personal solution is: 1) Sit in a comfortable chair 2) Put on a nice pair of Bose headphones 3) Blast Kanye West. If that doesn't work, blast Glenn Gould. (Music and art are the cure for a bleak world.)

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#77
>"I have lost the ability to tell if and what I want anything from life."

Read Robert A. Johnson's http://www.amazon.com/Transformation-Understanding-Levels-Ma...

From the Amazon.com description: "Using quintessential figures from classical literature--Don Quixote, Hamlet, and Faust--Robert Johnson shows us three clearly defined stages of consciousness development. He demonstrates how the true work of maturity is to grow through these levels to the self-realized state of completion and harmony.

In Johnson's view, we all reach the stages depicted by Don Quixote, Hamlet, and Faust at various times of our lives. The three represent levels of consciousness within us, each vying for dominance. Don Quixote portrays the innocent child, while Hamlet stands for our self-conscious need to act and feel in control though we have no real connection to our inner selves. Faust embodies the master of the true self, who has gained awareness by working through the stages."

Then read http://www.amazon.com/New-Earth-Awakening-Purpose-Selection/...

The coolest thing about being at this point in life is that: the greatest texts human kind has produced actually make sense now. The bad part is that it can be a lonely place to be: to realize everything everyone else seems to care about obviously doesn't matter (on the grand scheme of things). Being the only person you know that sees this can be hard. But if you make it to self actualization it supposedly is very much worth the negative your feeling now.

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#78
> Some people say this is what entering adulthood's like, but everyone around me seems to be perfectly fine.

Are you broadcasting not being fine to anyone but your closest friends? No? Then it means nothing that they aren't either.

Anyway, learn philosophy. You're asking philosophical questions. Most philosophy is bad and makes no sense. However, good philosophy is very useful. See Karl Popper. And you might try www.fallibleideas.com

Re: Ask HN: Are you happy, well-rounded? (dealing w/ depression/lack of motivation)

#79
post #54

"I am going to make an appointment with a psychologist" Make the appointment tomorrow morning! The people here not advocating seeking professional help, are the same people who have never received help. Trust me, seeing a psychologist is the single best thing you can do. If you had a physical illness, this type of question would not even be asked, mental health problems are just as serious and should be treated that…

I have received professional help myself. I would not necessarily recommend it--I've been in a similar situation and it did next to nothing for me. I wouldn't necessarily recommend against it, either--I'm just not "advocating" it, in your words.

point noted, I just thing like most things in life you have to find something that suits you. But I would recommend that if you don't have a pleasant experience the first time out switch doctors. I think sometimes people forget that not all care is the same, and your health is your responsibility. So find someone that fits you, instead of sticking with someone even though you are feeling that you are not getting anything out of it, or quitting altogether.
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