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Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

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Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

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Your app is a web view running inside a copy of Chrome. That is not a "native" app.

Is this a general objection to apps being web views run inside of Chrome? Insomnia's website does not make any claims towards being native.

> Insomnia's website does not make any claims towards being native.

From https://insomnia.rest/pricing/

"Native app for Mac, Windows, Linux"

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#72
post #60

The Windows installer is 60MB and it's 64-bit-only? It has a nice fancy GUI and all, but am I the only one thinking that's just a tiny bit... excessive? Especially when it claims to be "A simple and beautiful REST API client". The Mac OS and Linux versions are a bit smaller, but still not quite what I consider "simple". Also, did anyone else instinctively try decoding that Authorization header in one of the screensho…

It's based on the Electron framework ( http://electron.atom.io/ ) so the installer contains an entire copy of the Chromium browser. I agree that it's large, but it's basically the only option for an indie developer to write a cross-platform app. Also, 32 bit support is possible, but is a bit of work and demand hasn't been high enough to spend time on it. P.S. All the data in the screenshots is fake :P

> I agree that it's large, but it's basically the only option for an indie developer to write a cross-platform app.

What ever happened to Qt, WxWidgets and the like?

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#73
post #52

Seems cool - I am going to download now and try it out. Tip: I suggest removing the 'pricing' menu option on the top of the web site. I saw it immediately the first time I went to your site, and I assumed yours was a paid product, so I stopped there and closed the window. It was only when I went back later and scrolled through, I noticed the current version is free for now. Removing the 'Pricing' link may make other…

Conversely, pricing is one of the first things I look for (on the assumption that good tools cost money but provide value). If you're always going to have a free version, great put that on the pricing page along with any premium options, but don't make me go hunting through your site to find what paid options you have.

Just to clarify my position - I run for profit web apps too, and have absolutely no objection to any developer putting a price on their products or services.

It is just that in this circumstance, I am already a happy user of the (free) Postman API testing app, and whenever I see anyone talk about a new API testing tool, I am keen to check it out. However, if the other product is a 'paid for' product, then it has to be VERY compelling indeed to make me switch from the free one I am already using.

For instance, I (and many others) think that Paw is worth the licence fee. It sounds a great product and is well worth the money. But for me, I didn't see any solid reason to switch to Paw from Postman unless I came across an absolutely killer feature that I could not live without.

In Insomnia's case, I was ready to dismiss it because I read about the simplicity of the interface, and I saw a 'Pricing' link on the web page. I immediately assumed it was a paid licence product, which meant that it immediately fell outside any compelling reason for me to even trial it.

Later, when I saw that it was an always free piece of software, it immediately went back on my radar as something I should check out as a possible replacement for Postman.

If it is as good as others say, then I do sincerely hope that the author finds some way to monetise it via some sort of Pro subscription etc. in the future.

My point is that the presence of a Pricing page (which I admit is one of the first things I look for when I visit any app or service page) could mislead people into thinking it is a strictly paid-for app, when in fact it is not.

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#74

Seems cool - I am going to download now and try it out. Tip: I suggest removing the 'pricing' menu option on the top of the web site. I saw it immediately the first time I went to your site, and I assumed yours was a paid product, so I stopped there and closed the window. It was only when I went back later and scrolled through, I noticed the current version is free for now. Removing the 'Pricing' link may make other…

So I decided to keep the pricing link but add "free" to the download button. I think that's a pretty good balance.

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#75
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a general objection to apps being web views run inside of Chrome? Insomnia's website does not make any claims towards being native.

> Insomnia's website does not make any claims towards being native. From https://insomnia.rest/pricing/ "Native app for Mac, Windows, Linux"

I agree with the word "native" not suiting Electron apps well. I Updated the pricing page wording to reflect this. I think I originally used "native" because the Electron landing page does http://electron.atom.io/

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#76
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Insomnia's website does not make any claims towards being native. From https://insomnia.rest/pricing/ "Native app for Mac, Windows, Linux"

I agree with the word "native" not suiting Electron apps well. I Updated the pricing page wording to reflect this. I think I originally used "native" because the Electron landing page does http://electron.atom.io/

Thank you. As I've said previously I don't have any issue with the term 'desktop app' for things like this, so I think this was the right choice.

Good luck with it!

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#77
post #74

Seems cool - I am going to download now and try it out. Tip: I suggest removing the 'pricing' menu option on the top of the web site. I saw it immediately the first time I went to your site, and I assumed yours was a paid product, so I stopped there and closed the window. It was only when I went back later and scrolled through, I noticed the current version is free for now. Removing the 'Pricing' link may make other…

So I decided to keep the pricing link but add "free" to the download button. I think that's a pretty good balance.

The "Free Download" thing has been done to death though. It almost always is a guarantee that we can DOWNLOAD the app for 'free' but will have to pay when we want to actually USE the app.

I think the best alternative is to put a callout in your header somewhere that says something like "Basic version of Insomnia is free forever". Then retain the Pricing page for people who may be curious about your 'Plus' version.

Re: Insomnia 3.0 – A simple and beautiful REST API client

#80
I've been using http://mmattozzi.github.io/cocoa-rest-client for a couple of years, I just tried Insomnia and I think I'll be switching: having the ability to call frequently used API requests without having to re-enter JSON data will be very useful. Nice app, thanks gschier.
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