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Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by lvs »

stillworks wrote: post #53
twblalock wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. I switched back to an iPhone from Lollipop earlier this year, and the difference in battery life is staggering, even though the iPhone has a smaller battery than the Android phone I used to have. I'm glad that Google has signaled that they are going to further tighten the restrictions on background app activities in future releases. I hope they follow through with it.

I have been on Android Beta on Nexus 6p and if I turn off the Now Cards, the phone takes 2 days to go from ~95% to ~45%. I do have to pay attention to how I keep the phone charged though... I always try to not charge beyond 95% and never let it drop below 40%.

I assume you can cite no evidence that your battery charging regimen makes any difference whatsoever.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by morsch »

Grazester wrote: post #48
kuschku wrote: post #38

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And with this, they just killed all actual apps for Android. Anything you can do with an app you can do as well with a website. Any actual app, not just a website in form of an app, which did computational task, data recording, or kept services available, is impossible to create now. Run tracking app that doesn’t require you uploading your GPS data to Google Fit? Impossible. Messaging app that doesn’t route all your…

Please provide a link to this if you can.

Here's something he's referring to; messaging through Google's cloud infrastructure may be privileged[0]: "Like in Marshmallow, apps can still "punch through" Doze mode by sending a "high-priority message" via Firebase Cloud Messaging (formerly called "Google Cloud Messaging"). High-priority messages are the expected format for instant messaging apps, so users still get notified of messages when their phone is Dozing."

Hard to say whether this is one way to do it, or the only way. (E.g. "Unlike stationary Doze, wake locks (apps requesting the phone stay awake so they can do background tasks) are still allowed.")

[0] http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/android-7-0-nougat-re...

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #59
01Michael10 wrote: post #30

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The LG V20 will be the first Android 7 phone which will be reveled on September 6th.

That's the first phone to ship with it, but I think phones like the LG G5 and S7 could see it earlier than that.

Heh. It's Android, so ... no. Unless you mean international versions. No way will the US carriers get the updates through that fast.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by elagin »

cpprototypes wrote: post #68

Does anyone know how strict is the Google two year update policy for Nexus? It's clear they won't do major releases (such as Android 7.0) for old phones. However, what about critical security updates? For example, if something as bad as Stagefright was discovered, would Google do nothing for all the older Nexus phones out there? Or would something like that be a special exception to the rule?

Seems neither Google nor Apple do special exceptions. Out is out. Might install Cyanogen on my Nexus 5 but have to toss my iPhone 4s.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by srathi »

cpprototypes wrote: post #68

Does anyone know how strict is the Google two year update policy for Nexus? It's clear they won't do major releases (such as Android 7.0) for old phones. However, what about critical security updates? For example, if something as bad as Stagefright was discovered, would Google do nothing for all the older Nexus phones out there? Or would something like that be a special exception to the rule?

Security updates are provided for 3 years. [0]

[0] https://android.googleblog.com/2015/08/an-update-to-nexus-de...

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by baq »

qznc wrote: post #3

Personally, I don't care for any [0] of the new features. This is the greatest feature, because it means Android is mature now. [0] Sure, better performance is always nice, but I don't care for Vulkan, VR Mode, or Multi-Window.

better (== less irritating) notifications are the killer for me.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by igravious »

mscrivo wrote: post #63
andrewblossom wrote: post #49

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The Nexus 5 (16gb - $349, 32gb - $399) was released nearly three years ago for a fraction of the price of the comparable iPhone at the time (iPhone 5s: 16gb - $649, 32gb - $749). I think you got a hell of a deal. Upgrade to the 5x for another $350 be happy with another few years of support. Or wait for the new Nexus phones to come out this fall...

The only thing I'd add here is that unfortunately the Nexus 5x is not an upgrade over the 5 in terms of performance. It might even be a downgrade (I own both). Because the 5x uses a 64-bit arch, it uses more RAM than the 5x (and both only have 2GB). Also, the SD808 (2GHz) cores in the 5x are hardly a step up from the SD800 (2.2GHz) cores. The only real upgrade the 5x gives you is the camera.

I'll be upgrading my 5 to get USB-C, that little connectivity feature for me is the upgrade clincher.

Re: Taking the final wrapper off of Android 7.0 Nougat

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Post by khedoros »

swiley wrote: post #18
magila wrote: post #11

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Not really surprising given the device's age, but still disappointing given the presumably rather large number of Nexus 5 still in use. The bigger story may be the inability to come up with a compelling reason for N5 users to upgrade, other than getting the latest OS revision. The N5's compactness in particular makes the 5X (and the impending successor, codenamed "Sailfish") a tough sell.

That's a pretty crappy excuse, I've had laptops that last for 7 years just fine running Linux.

Let's get closer to comparing apples to apples. Every one of my laptops has lost manufacturer support 1-3 years after I got them...but even my 13 year old laptop will run a current Linux build.

Every one of my phones has lost manufacturer support 1-3 years after I got them...but my 5 year old Galaxy Nexus still has Cyanogenmod builds being released for it (based on Marshmallow).

With the timelines of when these different markets began, I think that's a fair comparison. Manufacturers want to maintain as few models as possible, but the community often does the work to provide extended support time.

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