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Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by stephenr »

pricechild wrote: post #62
stephenr wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well pretty much any router with a PPPoE client should work then. What is the "free city wifi" thing you referred to that requires the isp provided router?

I suspect he means the schemes where you agree to run an AP other customers can use and in return you get to connect to their AP's while on the move.

I've never seen/used this type of thing before, but then again I've never found my need for mobile data that massive that regular 3g/4g wasn't a reasonable option.

Maybe thats just me though. My Thai phone provider gives me global roaming with unlimited data capped at ฿300 a day (about $10 a day). The last time my wife and I came back to Australia together, we had pre-paid Telstra sims. The time after when I came alone for work, I didn't bother, as the roaming cost worked out better than Telstra's shitty pricing, and I still got to use their network.

As for an actual solution, I doubt there is one an ideal solution in this case. Honestly, I would want to need access to a lot of other people's Wifi before I signed up for this type of deal - how sure are you this doesn't give the other Telstra members carte-blanche access to your local network, and how sure are you a judge will accept "but your honour, that could have been anyone downloading those pictures, I have Telstra Air".

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by zbraniecki »

igravious wrote: post #66
zbraniecki wrote: post #24

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Just to put those words in context - I use Dell XPS 13 with Linux 4.7 and my power usage drops to 4.1 Watt discharge rate and holds an average of 6 W when I'm on average use. That means that I usually have around 7-8 hours of battery on my average use, and if I'm in a battery-sensitive environment like a long flight, I can reduce screen brightness and turn off wifi and get up to 14 hours of battery. Right at this mom…

Which revision of the Dell XPS 13? Thanks in advance!

The 2016 Skylake Developer Edition, with i5, FHD and 8GB ram. Works great with Ubuntu 16.04 and Gnome 3.

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by dominotw »

epberry wrote: post #25
dominotw wrote: post #5

>CPU accounting controller: Split cpuacct.usage into user usage and sys usage commit Has anyone used this to calculate how many containers can be packed onto a machine based on historical usage data?

That's a pretty interesting idea... I suppose you would make a guess at first to allocate containers and then adjust over time automatically? But in a monitored environment you're already going to know those stats so actually I'm not sure how this helps.

I was thinking more of a use case like CI system where we can use these values to figure out how many builds to run on a machine based on past history.

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by digi_owl »

qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #64
tangent128 wrote: post #35

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It appears that kdbus is being reworked into BUS1[0]; the new API looks a lot less warty. [0] http://www.bus1.org/bus1.html

That looks... better, but still ugly. I'd rather the whole thing was killed.

Won't happen, as systemd relies on dbus too much (to the point that it may well panic the kernel by shutting down if dbus goes belly up).

I do believe that right now you basically have to start dbus using initramfs so that it is ready for use by the time the kernel starts up systemd.

Franky the number of things that they cram into initramfs on a systemd based distro is nauseating.

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by voltagex_ »

stephenr wrote: post #71
pricechild wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect he means the schemes where you agree to run an AP other customers can use and in return you get to connect to their AP's while on the move.

I've never seen/used this type of thing before, but then again I've never found my need for mobile data that massive that regular 3g/4g wasn't a reasonable option. Maybe thats just me though. My Thai phone provider gives me global roaming with unlimited data capped at ฿300 a day (about $10 a day). The last time my wife and I came back to Australia together, we had pre-paid Telstra sims. The time after when I came alo…

I haven't had access to the Thomson gateway device for long enough to see how the traffic is segregated. If I do end up changing to Telstra I'll have a look, although I'm not sure I'd be allowed to solder up the serial-out on their device ;)

$10/day is $300+ a month - I pay $50/month for 7GB of data on Telstra's 3G/4G networks. I haven't actually needed to use Telstra Air because the middle of the city has free wifi by iiNet/Internode (RIP).

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by stephenr »

voltagex_ wrote: post #75
stephenr wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never seen/used this type of thing before, but then again I've never found my need for mobile data that massive that regular 3g/4g wasn't a reasonable option. Maybe thats just me though. My Thai phone provider gives me global roaming with unlimited data capped at ฿300 a day (about $10 a day). The last time my wife and I came back to Australia together, we had pre-paid Telstra sims. The time after when I came alo…

I haven't had access to the Thomson gateway device for long enough to see how the traffic is segregated. If I do end up changing to Telstra I'll have a look, although I'm not sure I'd be allowed to solder up the serial-out on their device ;) $10/day is $300+ a month - I pay $50/month for 7GB of data on Telstra's 3G/4G networks. I haven't actually needed to use Telstra Air because the middle of the city has free wifi…

> I haven't had access to the Thomson gateway device for long enough to see how the traffic is segregated

Given the generally atrocious default security of most home router vendors, I'd assume its equally terrible, and maybe you get a nice surprise.

> $10/day is $300+ a month - I pay $50/month for 7GB of data on Telstra's 3G/4G networks

As I said, I was using it when travelling from home (Thailand), so it was $10 a day (max, if i didn't use it or used less than the cap amount, no/less cost) for unlimited data (still using Telstra's network). The alternative was to use a prepaid telstra sim, which from memory at the time gave me maybe 4 gb of data for.. $59 or $69?

I wasn't suggesting its an option for you, just explaining that those "free wifi" things always seem like a shitty deal to me, compared to the cost of your own data service.

> I haven't actually needed to use Telstra Air because the middle of the city has free wifi by iiNet/Internode (RIP)

I must have missed something, what's the RIP for?

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by voltagex_ »

stephenr wrote: post #76
voltagex_ wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't had access to the Thomson gateway device for long enough to see how the traffic is segregated. If I do end up changing to Telstra I'll have a look, although I'm not sure I'd be allowed to solder up the serial-out on their device ;) $10/day is $300+ a month - I pay $50/month for 7GB of data on Telstra's 3G/4G networks. I haven't actually needed to use Telstra Air because the middle of the city has free wifi…

> I haven't had access to the Thomson gateway device for long enough to see how the traffic is segregated Given the generally atrocious default security of most home router vendors, I'd assume its equally terrible, and maybe you get a nice surprise. > $10/day is $300+ a month - I pay $50/month for 7GB of data on Telstra's 3G/4G networks As I said, I was using it when travelling from home (Thailand), so it was $10 a d…

Looks like we've hit the limit of HN's indented conversations. I've brought too many topics into one thread - sorry.

Thanks for the info.

The RIP was for Internode (high-end, first to roll out IPv6 in Australia, actual tech support), which is now owned by TPG (budget, over-subscribed).

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by stephenr »

voltagex_ wrote: post #77
stephenr wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I haven't had access to the Thomson gateway device for long enough to see how the traffic is segregated Given the generally atrocious default security of most home router vendors, I'd assume its equally terrible, and maybe you get a nice surprise. > $10/day is $300+ a month - I pay $50/month for 7GB of data on Telstra's 3G/4G networks As I said, I was using it when travelling from home (Thailand), so it was $10 a d…

Looks like we've hit the limit of HN's indented conversations. I've brought too many topics into one thread - sorry. Thanks for the info. The RIP was for Internode (high-end, first to roll out IPv6 in Australia, actual tech support), which is now owned by TPG (budget, over-subscribed).

I grew up outside Adelaide, so I know who they are, or were it seems.

I thought iiNet bought Internode a few years ago?

Re: Linux 4.7 Released

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Post by voltagex_ »

stephenr wrote: post #78
voltagex_ wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like we've hit the limit of HN's indented conversations. I've brought too many topics into one thread - sorry. Thanks for the info. The RIP was for Internode (high-end, first to roll out IPv6 in Australia, actual tech support), which is now owned by TPG (budget, over-subscribed).

I grew up outside Adelaide, so I know who they are, or were it seems. I thought iiNet bought Internode a few years ago?

iiNet bought Internode (after buying Westnet and TransACT), then TPG bought iiNet. They own a scary number of Australian ISPs and infrastructure now.
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