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Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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Re: Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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reminds me of this article... http://markmanson.net/question TL;DR: Don't set goals based on what makes you happy. Instead, decide what you're willing to suffer for.

I didn't agree with his opening premise of what everybody wants, so I couldn't finish reading.

Do you only read articles you agree with? That sounds like a strong case of confirmation bias. Besides, the core of the article does not reflect an elaboration of that paragraph, you should give it a try.

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PROTIP: 1. Have a longterm vision/goal for your life that is achievable regardless of financial resources/location etc. 2. Find a partner in crime who shares that vision and is willing to join you on what will surely be a great adventure known as your life. Life will surely be no bed of roses. 3. Stress Test your relationship in some way to ensure the vision/goal is aligned. I decided I should marry my wife following…

handle pretty much anything for six months Check back in six years, then fifteen, then twenty

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Re: Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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PROTIP: 1. Have a longterm vision/goal for your life that is achievable regardless of financial resources/location etc. 2. Find a partner in crime who shares that vision and is willing to join you on what will surely be a great adventure known as your life. Life will surely be no bed of roses. 3. Stress Test your relationship in some way to ensure the vision/goal is aligned. I decided I should marry my wife following…

no. you tested with a lot of externalities keeping life exciting. the real stress is being together through the daily, normal grind. in particular kids. where traveling for 6months through SA becomes unattainable - but you still remember those good old days. the 7 year itch is very real and closely tracks having kids. what you describe is the 20something vision of life. changes drastically mid-30s for most.

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Re: Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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PROTIP: 1. Have a longterm vision/goal for your life that is achievable regardless of financial resources/location etc. 2. Find a partner in crime who shares that vision and is willing to join you on what will surely be a great adventure known as your life. Life will surely be no bed of roses. 3. Stress Test your relationship in some way to ensure the vision/goal is aligned. I decided I should marry my wife following…

Counter tips: > 1. Have a longterm vision/goal for your life that is achievable regardless of financial resources/location etc. 1. Plan for financial long term future but focus on the fun in the short term. Also, good fun is a cheap fun so it's not mutually exclusive with the previous sentence. > 2. Find a partner in crime who shares that vision and is willing to join you on what will surely be a great adventure know…

> 2. Don't try to find anybody. Choose science! [1]

"Sience! I'll kill you!" (Ahmed Scientist)

Re: Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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I thought I had read something like this before. The Philosophers' Mail had some very thought provoking writing but it appears to have gone under.

The Philosophers' Mail is from the same people who started The School of Life. Alain de Botton is the author.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So don't have kids, we're not running out of people after all.

Not sure why you're downvoted. I suppose you're not contributing too much to the conversation, and it seems a little sarcastic (or something), but i often feel not having kids is a forgotten option. My SO and I chose long ago not to have kids (independently, fwiw), and people often look at us like we have two heads (.. each, heh).

Not having kids is an extremely common option that's growing in popularity. It's also incompatible with the modern welfare state as currently structured.

Re: Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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I thought I had read something like this before. The Philosophers' Mail had some very thought provoking writing but it appears to have gone under.

Yeah, I think this exact article was there but it's down now. I immediately checked my pocket archive and even though I pay for premium(meaning my library should be permanent) it's gone. I liked it when I first read it and I like it now.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There're random factors you can't control. Good example is post-partum depression. Every child birth is 20% chance; once happening, it can significantly change both partners.

So don't have kids, we're not running out of people after all.

Depending on your race.

https://ourworldindata.org/future-world-population-growth/#w...

Re: Why You Will Marry the Wrong Person

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> The good news is that it doesn’t matter if we find we have married the wrong person. Yes, it does! OMG, this so laughably wrong. (The whole article.) Who you marry is a big, big determiner of happiness. It's better to be single than to marry the wrong person.

That line is speaking at a different level than your response. The point - which the article goes on to elaborate on in the next few paragraphs - is that happiness is a choice , not a consequence . Every person is going to have flaws, and they will have little quirks that drive you nuts. Whether the relationship succeeds or not depends on how you react to those flaws. Do disagreements spiral out of control, with each…

I more or less agree with the parent. The article poses a pessimistic approach to mariage as a sane approach, but I find it utterly depressing to consider a whole life married to someone you have to make constant painful efforts to live with.

Of course you can, but from the outside you'll be miserable. You are master of your emotions, and can still make do with the situation. But you could have married someone you are more compatible with and only need slight efforts every here and there.

Everyone has flaws and in any couple there is a need to make adjustments, but the size of these adjustments will still wildly vary wether you take care to choose someone that fits you or not.

Saying "nobody's perfect so why care ?" is a thing nobody in their sane mind would take seriously.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The myth of unadopted babies/kids is pervasive and pretty inaccurate. Most babies and small children who are up for adoption have multiple families vying to bring them home already... If you want to talk about adopting preteens/teens/special needs children then it's a different ball game, but that's not what people try to do.

Yes, I wasn't implying an age limit on adoption. However, I think there's almost always some amount of self-interest in having kids: Me and my girlfriend despise babies (for now) and simply don't see ourselves as being responsible/mature enough to raise kids yet. We do entertain the idea though, now and then, and for us the main attractions of having kids seem to be: Something we made together, a "substitute" of each…

I hope there is some self-interest in having kids! One thing that I hope to impart on my child is that martyrdom is a terrible go-to practice.

The goal I have with raising my child isn't to create a miniature version of myself, it's to raise an autonomous individual with a robust moral framework. As far as self-interest goes, sharing this experience with my partner is one of the things I look forward to most over the next few years.

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