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Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by at-fates-hands »

slantedview wrote: post #62
engi_nerd wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And those slipups should open her to prosecution under the Espionage Act. A number of security professionals (I mean security in the government, Information Assurance sense) have told me that if they or I were to do anything like what Secretary Clinton did, we would be liable to be prosecuted.

The irony of Clinton having possibly violated the same law that she has used to (wrongly) advocate for the prosecution of whistleblowers is maddening, and moreover, the fact that she will likely escape prosecution is a horrible indictment of our democracy.

She probably won't if Trump is elected.

A lot of people are saying there's no way she gets indicted before the election. However, if Trump is elected, he's already said he's going to indict her and send her to prison. Therefore, I if you want to see her indicted, you're probably going to have to vote for Trump.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by gormo2 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #66
mindslight wrote: post #58

I really want to like Clinton for running her own server, respecting the decentralized basis of the Internet. Yet her domain name was clinton email .com? What a pleb! Political corruption and murder is her family business, yet even with those capabilities she can't be bothered to obtain a better online identity? She may as well have been at hotmail or gmail and highlighted in blue!

If I remember correctly, Sarah Palin used a Yahoo account to do some of her business as Alaska's governor. EDIT: Found it, yeap, Yahoo: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/palins-e-mail-...

That's not as bad as Colin Powell, who used AOL while serving as Secretary of State.

And of course it also was hacked by, you guessed it, Guccifer.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by at-fates-hands »

x0x0 wrote: post #68
at-fates-hands wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here are the two obvious one, and another one that's well. . . more in the vein of the Clinton's being the Clinton's IMHO. http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/264655-3-federal-laws-hillar... - Executive Order 13526 and 18 U.S.C Sec. 793(f) of the federal code make it unlawful to send of store classified information on personal email. - Section 1236.22 of the 2009 National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) requir…

Nothing that links to the daily caller is a serious news source. Plus the article is a pile of stupid innuendo that conflates what Hillary did with Petraeus providing contemporaneously classified documents to his journalist fuckbuddy. Further, clearly nobody in government had a contemporaneous problem with it since they saw the email address every time they communicated with Hillary Clinton. Whenever they sent her an…

>>> Nothing that links to the daily caller is a serious news source.

Neither is linking to the LA Times for that matter. I was simply fighting fire with fire.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by slantedview »

gormo2 wrote: post #52
colechristensen wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To extrapolate, the assertion is that she could get the secure .gov email account but it would only have been accessible from secured computers. They wouldn't give her a mobile device to access it, so she improvised.

They wouldn't give her the fancy mobile device that she wanted. They offered alternatives. She just wanted a Blackberry.

If this were, say, some poor low level government worker saying they stored classified info on a private server because they just wanted to use a blackberry and anything else was too inconvenient, no doubt Hillary would call for their head on a spike. The hypocrisy of her record contrasted with this situation is strong.

Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don't. Clinton's actions have shown that she does not.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by [deleted] »

untog wrote: post #69
toomuchtodo wrote: post #56

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I was unaware the clintonemail.com email server could differentiate between unclassified and classified content.

She still had a .gov e-mail address. It isn't difficult to imagine there was a "confidential to @gov, all else to @clintonemail.com" rule. I'm not defending the practise, but let's not be glib.

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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by Alupis »

untog wrote: post #69
toomuchtodo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was unaware the clintonemail.com email server could differentiate between unclassified and classified content.

She still had a .gov e-mail address. It isn't difficult to imagine there was a "confidential to @gov, all else to @clintonemail.com" rule. I'm not defending the practise, but let's not be glib.

> She still had a .gov e-mail address

She did, officially, but she's mentioned several times she never used it, and wanted to have her private email server for "convenience".

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by pbreit »

zaroth wrote: post #13

The emails themselves sent from Clinton's server were unencrypted for several months, so unencrypted printing is just more of the same. There's no reasonable question anymore that laws on handling classified data were broken, the only question is will charges actually be brought?

Assuming the data was classified (HRC has stated that it was not), what laws were broken?

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by mpnordland »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #7
Aelinsaar wrote: post #4

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"Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if they adhered to the cock-up theory." -Bernard Ingham

Seems similar to Hanlon's Razor: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

Thank you, I'd been trying to remember what this was called.

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by themartorana »

untog wrote: post #65

Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…

What's the rationale for not giving everyone secure smartphones? And I mean high-ranking officials, SoS certainly ranks considering how much she/he is in foreign countries with foreign leaders. Can someone in the know explain why the NSA would deny such requests?

Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?

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Post by x0x0 »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #73
x0x0 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing that links to the daily caller is a serious news source. Plus the article is a pile of stupid innuendo that conflates what Hillary did with Petraeus providing contemporaneously classified documents to his journalist fuckbuddy. Further, clearly nobody in government had a contemporaneous problem with it since they saw the email address every time they communicated with Hillary Clinton. Whenever they sent her an…

>>> Nothing that links to the daily caller is a serious news source. Neither is linking to the LA Times for that matter. I was simply fighting fire with fire.

The LA Times is a news source while the Daily Caller is an avowed conservative publication founded by Tucker Carlson and one of Dick Cheney's advisors.
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