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Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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Yeah, but (last time I installed) that wasn't an option at install time.

So then just don't create your main user account at install time. I'm usually creating an 'admin' user at that point anyway. The main thing to watch out for is to add new users appropriately to some system groups like sudo, cdrom, audio and such.

> I'm usually creating an 'admin' user at that point anyway.

Why create an admin user when root already exists?

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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Yeah, but (last time I installed) that wasn't an option at install time.

Ubuntu has that as an install-time feature, but then Ubuntu is definitely not Debian. Then again, Debian isn't really either given the systemd fiasco that is Jessie. How has that whole debacle impacted you? I still have several squeeze(or whatever oldstable / jessie-1 is) boxes that I'm loathe to upgrade, and considering just biting the bullet and switching to either Ubuntu, which has a more mature systemd seutp, or…

Actually, I don't mind systemd anymore. I hate the philosophy and attitude of the maintainer, but I haven't had any operational problems using systemd. It works, and it works pretty well. I just hate that I had no choice.

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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So then just don't create your main user account at install time. I'm usually creating an 'admin' user at that point anyway. The main thing to watch out for is to add new users appropriately to some system groups like sudo, cdrom, audio and such.

> I'm usually creating an 'admin' user at that point anyway. Why create an admin user when root already exists?

It is handy, if you are setting up the system for someone else.

You can always delete the user account you created at install time too, after you have set up the root account with a password.

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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Store your keys on a hardware token to reduce the chances of this happening (Nitrokey, Yubikey, OpenPGP smart card, etc.)

the way I read about Yubikey is that it is for websites, accounts, etc. Can you use it to log into your actual OS?

The Yubikey NEO (and the 4, but the 4 is more closed-source than the NEO) is basically a Javacard smartcard with OpenPGP and PIV (x.509) applets with standard interfaces. I have my GPG auth/sign/encrypt subkeys on it (master/certification key stays offline), and with gpg-agent it will present your GPG auth key as SSH credentials.

There are Yubikey-specific PAM modules you can use as a second factor for logging in locally, and there are probably ways to use standard smartcard authentication for login purposes as well but I don't have experience with that. I mainly use it for remote SSH login purposes.

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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That sounds like an annoyance, not encryption to me.

It reminds me of how I set a boot password in the BIOS on my HP laptop. I now have forgot the admin password in order to remove that "feature". I have no idea how I can fix it. The laptop is bricked. I can't install Linux on it because it is set not to boot from USB or CD/ROM

What's the model number of the laptop?

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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It reminds me of how I set a boot password in the BIOS on my HP laptop. I now have forgot the admin password in order to remove that "feature". I have no idea how I can fix it. The laptop is bricked. I can't install Linux on it because it is set not to boot from USB or CD/ROM

What's the model number of the laptop?

Not exactly sure because I don't have the laptop on me. Do you have model specific advice I should know about?

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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Where are those located?

The grey coin-sized CMOS battery is alongside the motherboard. I suggest you look at the many guides and videos, just search "removing BIOS password".

That will work for sure? I'd have to really start taking things apart.

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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I use Mac OS X FileVault2, with a firmware password. It's incredibly easy to set up and should be good enough to protect my data from the majority of thieves. Coupled with encrypted Time Machine backups and Arq[0] I feel relatively ok about losing my machine. [0] https://www.arqbackup.com

I use FileVault too on the laptop and it's fine. On the desktop it bogles the Blutooth (el capitan) and related devices (keyboard/mouse) which is VERY annoying.

Re: Ask HN: How do you encrypt your laptops?

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The grey coin-sized CMOS battery is alongside the motherboard. I suggest you look at the many guides and videos, just search "removing BIOS password".

That will work for sure? I'd have to really start taking things apart.

Almost certainly yes. I have taken apart many laptops, it's usually not more than 5 minutes reading a guide/video and another 5-10 minutes of work.
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