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Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by lawrence »

jfarmer wrote: post #67
byrneseyeview wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aaron is basically acting as their Ombudsman right now. Google will probably lose some serious revenue from that, because they get a big cut of what Mahalo generates. If Google lost that ad revenue for some other reason, the person responsible might well be fired for it. When Aaron Wall hounds them over it, they'll be more likely to make the right decision.

Google does something like $18Bn per year in revenue and of that about $750MM-$1Bn is from ads on non-Google-run sites. So, I think they care about Mahalo as a source of revenue about >< that much. They're probably more worried about possible anti-trust actions if they just drop Mahalo -- I bet that would shave more off their market cap than losing Mahalo as a customer.

This is incorrect. AdSense was 31% of their revenues in Q409. They did more than $2B in AdSense revenue in Q4 alone:

http://investor.google.com/releases/2009Q4_google_earnings.h...

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by scott_s »

Perceval wrote: post #60
josefresco wrote: post #30

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Keep your personal opinions out of this debate, please. This is who Jason is for those who do not know why his 'bad behavior' is so watched and talked about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Calacanis

I think it's reprehensible that parent has been downvoted. Ad hominem is ad hominem , no matter how deserving we think the target might be. Great-grandparent poster asked a question, ostensibly seeking an informative answer. What they got was grand-parent's uninformative tirade. While it certainly represents how people feel about Calcanis, it does not in any way answer great-grandparent's question, it is not informat…

Ad hominem is not a synonym for insult. It is used exclusively for when someone attacks the speaker, and not the speaker's arguments. In this case, there were no arguments. The question was "Who is X?" Someone answered who X is. That answer was harsh, but also consistent with everything that I have seen.

I agree its civility is borderline. But it's not an ad hominem attack because no argument was being made.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by supadog »

Froo is right, there is only one reason why Jason currently gets away with spamming google and that is becuase both google and Mahalo are Sequoia funded. Someone senior at Sequoia has told someone senior at google that mahalo will clean their act up so please dont ban them yet.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by tomjen2 »

supadog wrote: post #73

Froo is right, there is only one reason why Jason currently gets away with spamming google and that is becuase both google and Mahalo are Sequoia funded. Someone senior at Sequoia has told someone senior at google that mahalo will clean their act up so please dont ban them yet.

Or somebody at Mahalo has some really juicy knowledge about Matt Cuts.

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by shareme »

jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #62
mvandemar wrote: post #49

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Jason, you are actually full of crap. For starters, you are mistaken, or pretending not to know, as to why this keeps happening to you. You brought this on yourself, and on Mahalo.com, by unsubtle spamming and boasting about it, and then being rude to boot. You can whine all you want about the perceived injustice of people calling you on your crap, but the fact remains it is your actions that are getting called out,…

as I've said, all these pages are being deleted, redirected or built out. also, the no index thing is going to be on all pages under 100 original words. we are working as fast as we can to resolve all these stubs, but many are owned by users and we don't want to just nuke them.... so, we're busy at work. thanks for the feedback....

glad to hear it..now see was that not a better response than the personal attack of calling all SEO people terrorists that you did a few days ago?

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by shareme »

beilabs wrote: post #66
jasonmcalacanis wrote: post #48

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This is getting a little silly I agree. I guess the SEOs are not going to stop so we're all going to have to suffer as they create spam pages in Mahalo and then point to them and say "Calacanis allows spam!" Update: 1. Did we have show short pages in Mahalo? Yes. 2. How did they get there? Our users start topic pages and don't finish them. 3. Were they getting traffic? Not really... like 4. Why does this keep coming…

Afraid I only agree with one thing above: "If HN wants to filter out "calacanis" and "mahalo" from HN i'm all for it." Hear Hear!

you know of HN Toolkit a grease monkey script for FF right?

Re: Mahalo's disappearing noindex tags

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Post by jfarmer »

lawrence wrote: post #71
jfarmer wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google does something like $18Bn per year in revenue and of that about $750MM-$1Bn is from ads on non-Google-run sites. So, I think they care about Mahalo as a source of revenue about >< that much. They're probably more worried about possible anti-trust actions if they just drop Mahalo -- I bet that would shave more off their market cap than losing Mahalo as a customer.

This is incorrect. AdSense was 31% of their revenues in Q409. They did more than $2B in AdSense revenue in Q4 alone: http://investor.google.com/releases/2009Q4_google_earnings.h...

I was working from this: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-in-case-you-...

Those numbers are net sales, not gross revenue, so cost of revenue (revenue splits, traffic acquisition costs, etc.) are factored out.

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