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How Android gets to 100% market share

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Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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Post by pjmlp »

viraptor wrote: post #70
pjmlp wrote: post #45

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> What "firmware issues plague Android? Apparently you lack reading comprehension as I listed two of them. > This must be a joke So here are a some more jokes specially just for you: https://github.com/google/iosched/issues/79 http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/11/samsung-devices-migh... http://verybadalloc.com/android/2015/12/19/special-place-for... https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/list?can=1&q=firmwa...

So the released devices have bugs - same thing happened on old feature phones. That's always going to happen - that's how consumer software works. This is not even close to what happened for J2ME. 1. If there was a J2ME bug on a phone, you were stuck with it forever. Only a handful of phones received upgrades and you had to find a specific cable to flash them, so most people never did. With Android you have a chance…

> With Android you have a chance to receive a fix over the network - that's magic in comparison.

Assuming you shelled out money for a Nexus that wasn't canned like the TI one.

All the other OEMs aren't any different from the J2ME days.

All my Android devices got the same amount of updates as the J2ME we used to target, meaning either none or one.

Updated via the desktop software that came with them.

> You're not downloading Samsung SDK

You mean this SDK?

http://developer.samsung.com/sdk-and-tools

Or this one?

https://developer.sony.com/develop/

Or this one?

http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveOverview.de...

I don't see any difference.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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Post by viraptor »

pjmlp wrote: post #71
viraptor wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So the released devices have bugs - same thing happened on old feature phones. That's always going to happen - that's how consumer software works. This is not even close to what happened for J2ME. 1. If there was a J2ME bug on a phone, you were stuck with it forever. Only a handful of phones received upgrades and you had to find a specific cable to flash them, so most people never did. With Android you have a chance…

> With Android you have a chance to receive a fix over the network - that's magic in comparison. Assuming you shelled out money for a Nexus that wasn't canned like the TI one. All the other OEMs aren't any different from the J2ME days. All my Android devices got the same amount of updates as the J2ME we used to target, meaning either none or one. Updated via the desktop software that came with them. > You're not down…

All of those provide extra functionality. Extra, as in beyond what you would normally need for an app. There are sensors, themes, accessories, etc. They're not available in (for example) non-Samsung devices, so they don't really apply there.

In J2ME you pretty much needed to use custom SDK to play a sound. Or draw a screen fast enough to do scrolling. Or just activate colours at all. I'm talking about things like http://www.j2megame.org/j2meapi/Nokia_UI_API_1_1/ which provided sound and ui canvas.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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Post by philliphaydon »

viraptor wrote: post #12
philliphaydon wrote: post #10

I moved from android to iphone to Windows phone to android to iphone. I'm sticking with iphone. Android has been the worst experience for me. Had an old HTC with 2.# and a Samsung note4, plagued with issues. The thing that annoyed me most (besides Samsung bugs like not being able to remove keyboard notification) is when you register with an email, you cannot use the same email for another service. My contacts exist o…

I'm having trouble understanding your issue with email addresses. What do you mean by "another service"? What do you mean by "register the phone with gmail"? What do you mean by "sign in with windows live"?

My gmail is registered as a Windows Live account.

So same email / different password / different service.

I store all my contacts on my Windows Live account.

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When you register the phone with a Google Account it automatically creates an Account for the email associated to the Google Account.

I then want to add a Windows Live account in order to sync my contacts.

Android OS prevents this by disallowing the registration of the Windows Live service by telling me that the email address is already associated with an account.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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Post by JohnTHaller »

lnanek2 wrote: post #61
JohnTHaller wrote: post #46

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You mean someone who spends days sleeping on the sidewalk in a tent to buy the new version of a pocket computer isn't buying based on analytical thought? The thing is, I can understand staying up late and going to a midnight release of something like folks have done for a new Harry Potter book or a new Halo release. Following that up with staying up late reading the stories of the characters you already know to find…

A new smartphone enhances your capabilities, though. They are tools. So the guy waiting for a smartphone instead of waiting to see Harry Potter is going to come away from the experience with more capabilities than he had before. New entertainment like movies just wastes your time and money. They are also powerful status symbols, like having an expensive Rolex. Someone who is first in their circle with a new iDevice i…

The people in line for an iPhone 6 have an iPhone 5s with them. Nothing life changing is occurring at all. Someone buying a smartphone for the first time isn't camping out in line at the Apple store.

There is no difference in having an iPhone on day one vs day two in terms of social status or business status. And certainly not romantic status.

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