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Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by om2 »

chiph wrote: post #61
sergiotapia wrote: post #35

Programmatic cut and copy to the clipboard It’s now possible to programmatically copy and cut text in response to a user gesture with document.execCommand('copy') and document.execCommand('cut'). Having this ability may eliminate some websites’ last need for the Flash plug-in. --- :'( - So much pain erased in a single stroke!

I wouldn't ever enable clipboard integration -- a malicious site could use it to collect data by using the paste command with execCommand -- they'd grab whatever was on my clipboard, which could include my banking password from my password manager app that I was just getting ready to use.

That's why they only get the ability to programmatically trigger cut and copy, not paste.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by snowwrestler »

chiph wrote: post #61
sergiotapia wrote: post #35

Programmatic cut and copy to the clipboard It’s now possible to programmatically copy and cut text in response to a user gesture with document.execCommand('copy') and document.execCommand('cut'). Having this ability may eliminate some websites’ last need for the Flash plug-in. --- :'( - So much pain erased in a single stroke!

I wouldn't ever enable clipboard integration -- a malicious site could use it to collect data by using the paste command with execCommand -- they'd grab whatever was on my clipboard, which could include my banking password from my password manager app that I was just getting ready to use.

Is there programmatic access to the paste command? I only see cut and copy listed.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by dantiberian »

chiph wrote: post #61
sergiotapia wrote: post #35

Programmatic cut and copy to the clipboard It’s now possible to programmatically copy and cut text in response to a user gesture with document.execCommand('copy') and document.execCommand('cut'). Having this ability may eliminate some websites’ last need for the Flash plug-in. --- :'( - So much pain erased in a single stroke!

I wouldn't ever enable clipboard integration -- a malicious site could use it to collect data by using the paste command with execCommand -- they'd grab whatever was on my clipboard, which could include my banking password from my password manager app that I was just getting ready to use.

Paste is disallowed for just this reason.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by ricardobeat »

ceejayoz wrote: post #11
ricardobeat wrote: post #2

Amazing to see this released while we still can not click links in mobile Safari :/

I can click links just fine in mobile Safari...

See news links posted below. I (and thousands other people) have been unable to use a browser normally in our mobile phones for the past week. Since Apple forces everyone to use the same underlying webkit engine, all browsers are broken. It's quite frustrating to have your 800€ device unable to perform one of it's basic duties.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by gapchuboy »

mrweasel wrote: post #29
ryanjshaw wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take them seriously when they release something that runs on Windows.

Why? Don't you take Microsoft serious either? Edge isn't exactly running on Mac... or Linux.

If they do, would you use it on you mac, linux or even on windows?

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by MBCook »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #67
ryanjshaw wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take them seriously when they release something that runs on Windows.

They did release Safari for Windows. Nobody used it, and I guess they figured the cost of upkeep wasn't worth it.

As an end user it was pretty bad (with all the libraries they were using). It mainly seemed to exist so Windows only shops could develop/test their websites on iPhones and iPads without having to own that hardware.

As iPhones and iPads became ubiquitous (as well as the popularity of Macs with developers) that didn't seem to be enough reason to keep it going.

I don't think Apple ever intended to win the browser war, I assume it was a means to an end. Maybe I'm wrong and someone was somewhat delusional. As a Mac lover who had a strong PC at the time it was quite pokey to try to use.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by bsimpson »

binaryjohn wrote: post #30
bsimpson wrote: post #24

Nice to have more visibility into which features are coming to WebKit, especially since they don't release to consumers very often. Bummed to not see WebRTC on here though.

FWIW: looks like it's in development https://webkit.org/status/#specification-webrtc

That's why I was hoping it would ship with iOS 10. =)

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by chris_wot »

mrweasel wrote: post #29
ryanjshaw wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take them seriously when they release something that runs on Windows.

Why? Don't you take Microsoft serious either? Edge isn't exactly running on Mac... or Linux.

Plenty of people haven't taken Microsoft seriously for some time now :-)

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Post by frou_dh »

chris_wot wrote: post #68
frou_dh wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many times are you going to post the same comment multiple times per story? We get it, >>>3 months<<< is a travesty.

Are you saying this isn't a timely comment? Or relevant? I'll keep commenting on their three month timeframe on relevant stories. I don't mind that you don't like me making the point that it's unreasonable. Especially as you agree! Edit: I'll review my comment history: * The comment you are responding to, I feel is relevant * I write a reply to this comment that says that Apple's Safari development is getting better,…

I don't think it's an unreasonable complaint, just that it seemed you were in a multi-day enraged frenzy with "3 FUCKIN' months" bouncing around your head :)
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