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Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by xemoka »

TheLogothete wrote: post #66
seren wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application (maybe native app as well at some point). However, they are plenty fields from machine learning, to robotics that are also likely on the rise that would require some SW development skills. Also, as mentioned by d0lph, I believe the high churn in web technology makes more people relying on SO, compared to let's say someone coding in C99. But my view is probably…

>I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application Both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates disagree with you[1]. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhW8cp15tk

In 2007. Everything changes, it's our only constant.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by douche »

ryandrake wrote: post #51
seren wrote: post #5

As a non web developer I am fairly surprised that about 50% of developers are "web developers". Is this the distribution in the global developer population as well ? Or is this a bias due to Stackoverflow which by its very nature is web centric ?

Biased towards users of StackOverflow, not developers in general. Unless you believe the population of developers who took the survey is representative of the entire world of software developers--I'd be willing to bet it's not.

Yep, StackOverflow tends to be a ghost town on non-web-related technologies, and basic programming language contructs/techniques - and those are heavily weighted towards Ruby/Java/C#/Python, where the questions are not necessarily about web dev, but you can tell the questioner is working on the back-end of a web app.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by recursive »

Delmania wrote: post #22
mixedmath wrote: post #7

I remain as surprised as last year about the prevalence of Notepad++. My circles do not intersect these users, I think.

For Windows, Notepad++ fits nicely for situations where "I need more than Notepad, but less than an IDE". It's a great example of the a well done pieces of free software on Windows. I've tried Emacs, Vim, Atom, Code, and Sublime, and none of them beat N++.

Interesting. In my experience, Sublime crushes Notepad++.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by ChrisDutrow »

OJFord wrote: post #43

Interesting that: - JS ranks high in 'wanted' to develop - JS doesn't appear in 'love' developing - CoffeeScript ranks high in 'dread' to continue to develop Big discrepancy in appeal for people on the outside looking in compared to those using it!

Yeah, and a big endorsement for Rust - at the top of the "love" list.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by TheLogothete »

xemoka wrote: post #71
TheLogothete wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I have no doubt that the web will eat desktop application Both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates disagree with you[1]. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhW8cp15tk

In 2007. Everything changes, it's our only constant.

What has changed in the limitations of the DOM?

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by m90 »

p4wnc6 wrote: post #56
baldfat wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read it as: "Man, I better get over my hatred of JavaScript." (Started when building front ends to databases in 1999. Haven't really looked back and that is 100% my fault.

I disagree. I'd much rather be forced to learn an entirely new profession and leave coding all together than to be required to write Javascript professionally. One thing this survey doesn't really touch on is the way the rise of Javascript is related to a fall in software quality. We write a lot more code now. More people write code. And a lot of that code sucks and it's a shame someone foolishly considers it product…

Cool story, bro, spread the gospel. Better keep people from easy access to programming and enjoy the beautiful software we had in the 90ies.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by onestone »

OJFord wrote: post #43

Interesting that: - JS ranks high in 'wanted' to develop - JS doesn't appear in 'love' developing - CoffeeScript ranks high in 'dread' to continue to develop Big discrepancy in appeal for people on the outside looking in compared to those using it!

To be fair, JS appears in 'loved' as Node.js.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by whybroke »

fweespee_ch wrote: post #20

> The average developer is 29.6 years old. The median is 27. Does anyone else find this concerning given all the talk of age bias in tech?

In the past, gender discrepancy was justified just as glibly as ageism is now. People said almost exactly the same nonsense then: women just got married, they moved to other fields, this particular poll is biased (never mind they all show the same trend), they quit to raise children. In the ageism case, someone even ludicrously suggested retirement before 40 accounts for a significant percentage

Ageism is indeed a very serious problem and the same personality types that didn't want to fix bias problems in the past are resisting addressing the age problem with equal vigor today.

Re: 2016 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results

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Post by sotojuan »

onestone wrote: post #77
OJFord wrote: post #43

Interesting that: - JS ranks high in 'wanted' to develop - JS doesn't appear in 'love' developing - CoffeeScript ranks high in 'dread' to continue to develop Big discrepancy in appeal for people on the outside looking in compared to those using it!

To be fair, JS appears in 'loved' as Node.js.

Sounds right to me. I love writing backend, services, etc in Node but even with libraries I love like React there's a sigh coming out when I start working on a browser app.
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