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Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by FluidDjango »

wehriam wrote: post #65
cmelbye wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it also looks like Safari's recent improvements in terms of plugins that they introduced in Snow Leopard have successfully prevented this problem from taking down the whole browser.

How recent? 4.0.4 crashed for me.

NOTE: I generally browse with ClickToFlash active in Safari. That of course prevented the crash (until I clicked).

With Safari 4.0.4 (ClickToFlash turned off) the browser was fine but the Flash plug-in died, and Safari informed me:

> Flash Player (Safari Intenet plug-in) quit unexpectedly. > This report will be sent to Apple automatically.

PS: 10.6.2, FWIW

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by vimalg2 »

ramchip wrote: post #26
m104 wrote: post #3

Much praise to the Google Chrome team for handling this sort of thing gracefully.

And much praise to the Opera team for just not crashing in the first place. I can zoom in the blue square, move around, etc. and the page is still fine after a minute or so leaving it open.

This is excellent. But I wish I could see an error/warning message a la Chrome.

However, i did notice a perceptible bump in memory usage via the System Monitor panel applet. The POC probably exploits a known Memory-allocation bug.

[Currently running Opera 10.10/i686 Linux] Edited: Grammar

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by cmelbye »

wehriam wrote: post #65
cmelbye wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it also looks like Safari's recent improvements in terms of plugins that they introduced in Snow Leopard have successfully prevented this problem from taking down the whole browser.

How recent? 4.0.4 crashed for me.

You need to have at least Snow Leopard, I believe. Apple recently moved plugins to separate processes, which prevents the entire browser from crashing. Flash will crash, but it won't take down the whole browser.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by keltex »

brettnak wrote: post #68
InclinedPlane wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flash on multiple browsers has completely separate cookie and data stores. Flash on a single browser has a single cookie and data store. Without introducing a complex forking/merging infrastructure for that data (which only Adobe would be able to create anyway) you're stuck with a single process for the plugin for all of the tabs in a single browser.

Flash actually has one cookie & data store. It exists between browsers. You can see your flash cookies at this website: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplay... You'll notice that they are the same no matter what browser you use.

This page crashed flash for me! Wow!

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by epochwolf »

philwelch wrote: post #22
grinich wrote: post #20

ClickToFlash for Safari/Webkit on Mac is one of the best add-ons I've found. http://clicktoflash.com/ http://github.com/rentzsch/clicktoflash

Yes, but oddly it seems to circumvent Safari's protective spawning of Flash to a separate process when it does load. When I clicked the browser-crashing Flash app, it actually crashed Safari, and Activity Monitor never picks up the separate Flash process anymore.

Using the webkit nightlies and regular Safari on Snow Leopard with ClickToFlash installed, I just shows a blue ? box and a crash report.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by barnaby »

itistoday wrote: post #28

You know this whole Flash debacle is a real shame because Flash, at least the concept of Flash, is really a great idea with lots of potential. Flash allows people to create wonderful things (just visit newgrounds.com) but Adobe's lack of commitment to improving it is dragging it down and could be its unfortunate downfall.

No it's not. No it doesn't.

Flash is a terrible concept just like Java Applets were a terrible concept, and its only potential is annoying advertisements, slow splash pages that keep away return visitors, and browser crashes.

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by SpoonMeiser »

scommab wrote: post #62
freebsd_dude wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail uses flash for the file upload progress bar when adding an attachment. Will HTML5 allow developers to add this feature?

Flash is also used to make that popping sound when you get a gtalk message.

It is? Why?

Re: Flash Crash (Warning, may crash your browser)

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Post by sjs »

jdietrich wrote: post #21

Within fifteen seconds of Flash Crash crashing my Flash, my laptop's fan stopped for the first time today. I think I might just uninstall flash.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433

http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/

https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/cdngiadmnkhgemki...

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