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Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by rpearl » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:34 PM UTC

Veratyr wrote: post #15

wspeirs wrote: post #11

It's clear that the cost of storage is approaching $0, but it's surprising to me that the price of these company's services vary so much: - Box: $180/year for unlimited ( https://www.box.com/pricing/ ) - Google: $120/year for 1TB ( https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en ) - Dropbox: $100/year for 1TB ( https://www.dropbox.com/pro ) - Amazon: $60/year for unlimited ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/land…

You used business pricing for Box, Dropbox and Microsoft but consumer pricing for Google. Google gives unlimited storage for $120/user/year as part of Apps for Work Unlimited: https://support.google.com/a/answer/6034782?hl=en Also "offer approximately the same service" is a bit off. Amazon doesn't have any kind of SLA for Cloud Drive and while Box, Microsoft and Google provide SLAs. In addition, while the older compe…

That's Dropbox's consumer pricing. Their business pricing is $180/user/year ($15/user/mo) for unlimited.

https://www.dropbox.com/business/pricing

(nb: used to work there)

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by wpietri » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:35 PM UTC

wspeirs wrote: post #11

It's clear that the cost of storage is approaching $0, but it's surprising to me that the price of these company's services vary so much: - Box: $180/year for unlimited ( https://www.box.com/pricing/ ) - Google: $120/year for 1TB ( https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en ) - Dropbox: $100/year for 1TB ( https://www.dropbox.com/pro ) - Amazon: $60/year for unlimited ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/land…

Personally, I'm happy to keep paying Dropbox. The Amazon and Google offerings aren't so much commercial products as hegemony extensions. When something's a sideline, I think there's a much higher risk of a mediocre product (e.g., Google Plus) or that eventually gets killed because strategery (e.g., Google Reader).

I'm ok with that for things I don't care too much about losing, but my photos are precious to me, so I'll keep them with a company whose main business is not losing my stuff. Dropbox has one job, and so far they have consistently acted like they know it.

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by mxuribe » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:37 PM UTC

ausjke wrote: post #17

ausjke wrote: post #13

time to ditch flickr then? as I have the prime membership at amazon? wish I can import flickr into amazon somehow. on the other hand I hope they support client-side encryption so someone can only view the pictures after they're decrypted

how to define "picture", can I hide my files into some picture then upload it and essentially use amazon-picture-unlimited as an unlimited file storage?

While I haven't read Amazon's terms of use as to whether this is ok from a policy perspective, most back-up services don't check for "files within pictures". In fact, the hiding of data within imagery is called Steganography: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography

Although the intent with Steganography is (weak) cryptography, the method should work for your purposes; only way to know is to test it! Admittedly until you've tested this thoroughly, I would not RELY on this for anything other than a fun test. Enjoy! :-)

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by vitd » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:38 PM UTC

tmaly wrote: post #68

Right now I use backblaze for $5 a month. This covers my photos and videos on OSX. I saw in another comment that backblaze is only one datacenter. If Amazon included video even if it was only 1 TB I would dump backblaze. I may still use the prime photos for my iphone as apple cannot backup the amount of photos I take to their cloud. Transferring them to the iMac for backblaze is a pain. If Prime Photos had a print se…

Why do you have to transfer your photos to the iMac for back blaze? They have an iOS client. [0]

[0]https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/backblaze/id628638330?mt=8

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by DrFence » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:42 PM UTC

I wish Google and or iOS would allow me to tag.

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by hockeybias » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:42 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #72

wspeirs wrote: post #11

It's clear that the cost of storage is approaching $0, but it's surprising to me that the price of these company's services vary so much: - Box: $180/year for unlimited ( https://www.box.com/pricing/ ) - Google: $120/year for 1TB ( https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en ) - Dropbox: $100/year for 1TB ( https://www.dropbox.com/pro ) - Amazon: $60/year for unlimited ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/land…

Personally, I'm happy to keep paying Dropbox. The Amazon and Google offerings aren't so much commercial products as hegemony extensions. When something's a sideline, I think there's a much higher risk of a mediocre product (e.g., Google Plus) or that eventually gets killed because strategery (e.g., Google Reader). I'm ok with that for things I don't care too much about losing, but my photos are precious to me, so I'l…

Who doesn't love a good hegemony extension

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by wpietri » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:44 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #30

Amazon nags me quite a bit and tries to upsale me to Prime on the Amazon website. Every single time I click "check out" and in several other places I get these Prime popovers or full page ads with a very small "No thanks" or "Cancel" link. There are now even normal non-Amazon products that are sold only to Prime members. Is this how Amazon.com cares about loyal 15+ year consumers? I DO NOT WANT PRIME, GOT IT? Not now…

I had this problem with the Amazon Music app even though I already pay for Amazon Prime. Every time I opened it, it would be "Hey, want to join Prime Music?" And I would say no, because IDGAF. And then it would ask me a second time, as if it couldn't quite believe me.

After months of this, I said yes just to get it to shut up, which meant that any attempt to listen to my music would it involve displaying lots of things that they could give me for free, none of which I wanted. Eventually I just stopped using the Amazon Music app.

It amazes me how much large company product design becomes about what companies want the users to do, with so little attention paid to what users actually want. I already had to uninstall the Amazon app and block notifications from the Kindle app because they insisted on chirpily notifying me of exciting special offers. By which they meant their various attempts to get me to buy crap I don't want.

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:55 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #72

wspeirs wrote: post #11

It's clear that the cost of storage is approaching $0, but it's surprising to me that the price of these company's services vary so much: - Box: $180/year for unlimited ( https://www.box.com/pricing/ ) - Google: $120/year for 1TB ( https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en ) - Dropbox: $100/year for 1TB ( https://www.dropbox.com/pro ) - Amazon: $60/year for unlimited ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/land…

Personally, I'm happy to keep paying Dropbox. The Amazon and Google offerings aren't so much commercial products as hegemony extensions. When something's a sideline, I think there's a much higher risk of a mediocre product (e.g., Google Plus) or that eventually gets killed because strategery (e.g., Google Reader). I'm ok with that for things I don't care too much about losing, but my photos are precious to me, so I'l…

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Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by CydeWeys » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 8:57 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #72

wspeirs wrote: post #11

It's clear that the cost of storage is approaching $0, but it's surprising to me that the price of these company's services vary so much: - Box: $180/year for unlimited ( https://www.box.com/pricing/ ) - Google: $120/year for 1TB ( https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375123?hl=en ) - Dropbox: $100/year for 1TB ( https://www.dropbox.com/pro ) - Amazon: $60/year for unlimited ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/drive/land…

Personally, I'm happy to keep paying Dropbox. The Amazon and Google offerings aren't so much commercial products as hegemony extensions. When something's a sideline, I think there's a much higher risk of a mediocre product (e.g., Google Plus) or that eventually gets killed because strategery (e.g., Google Reader). I'm ok with that for things I don't care too much about losing, but my photos are precious to me, so I'l…

Google Photos is really good at viewing/galleries/sharing and indexing, and especially so at applying machine intelligence for categorization and tagging. How well does Dropbox handle this stuff?

Re: Amazon Prime Photos

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Post by blowski » Tue, Dec 29, 2015, 9:04 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #78

wpietri wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I'm happy to keep paying Dropbox. The Amazon and Google offerings aren't so much commercial products as hegemony extensions. When something's a sideline, I think there's a much higher risk of a mediocre product (e.g., Google Plus) or that eventually gets killed because strategery (e.g., Google Reader). I'm ok with that for things I don't care too much about losing, but my photos are precious to me, so I'l…

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I think the OP is worried about Amazon closing down Prime Photos, so which back-end storage provider actually stores the photos is irrelevant.