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Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by DanBC »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #55
the-dude wrote: post #52

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> Those service personnel shouldn't be expecting privacy while they provide services, anyway. Jeez. Not sure how to respond. I think for me it is not 'complete okay' to waiver your privacy whenever you provide paid services to some overlord.

Do you expect privacy in the workplace? Do you expect privacy when you're in a shopping mall? You're in a building controlled by someone else, no renting going on. What is your rule for when privacy is expected?

> Do you expect privacy in the workplace?

Somewhat, yes. Benefits of being a European, I guess.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by dheera »

the-dude wrote: post #58
Dylan16807 wrote: post #55

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Do you expect privacy in the workplace? Do you expect privacy when you're in a shopping mall? You're in a building controlled by someone else, no renting going on. What is your rule for when privacy is expected?

> Do you expect privacy in the workplace? Yes. And I am in the position to demand it, or take another position. So we get a privacy divide within society: cleaners, waiters etc don't have an expectation of privacy, those higher up do. > Do you expect privacy when you're in a shopping mall? No, everybody can walk in and out at any time. > You're in a building controlled by someone else, no renting going on. What is yo…

You're a plumber in my house. I feel like I fully have the right to watch you as you repair my plumbing. You're a babysitter in my house. Babysitting my hypothetical baby. I feel like I would have the right to watch over that baby's treatment in someone else's hands. If you aren't going to let me watch over the quality of your services, I would just find someone else to provide those services.

At some point, once we have established a degree of trust, I would probably watch over you less and less. This is quality control, not a privacy violation.

I do agree that within a single organization, such as a software company, employees need to have some level of privacy from each other in order to work efficiently and happily. That is also facilitated by an environment of mutual trust established by the company itself. That's a very different situation from an individual contracting the services of another individual, who are not a priori related to each other.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by pavel_lishin »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #62
pavel_lishin wrote: post #23

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Are there any guides to doing this? We're about to have a baby, and don't want to drop a few hundred bucks on a baby video monitor system - I'd rather just ziptie a phone to the shelf above the crib.

Q: Why do you want a baby monitor? We got one as a gift, but hardly used it. Of course both my kids are little Darth Shnorkulas. I just can't really think of a scenario where the monitor helps. I mean I've had those panicked moments where I'm like "Is my kid dead, and I've just been sitting here playing computer games?" But either get up and check, or just keep playing. They almost never die.

My favorite part of asking any technical question is the mandatory "you don't actually want to do what you're asking us how to do" :)

Pretty much most of what people said in response; if the baby's asleep and I'm cooking in the kitchen while watching a YouTube video and boiling something, it'd be nice to have a window displaying the kid in the corner so I can tell when it wakes up. Plus, it might be nice to tune in from work and watch it sleep. Plus, the wife wants one.

Given that dedicated hardware ones are expensive, I'd like to try it with one of the old phones we have laying around - if I come to agree with you that it's unnecessary, I won't have wasted $200 on something that really has no other purpose.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by the-dude »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #63
the-dude wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you expect privacy in the workplace? Yes. And I am in the position to demand it, or take another position. So we get a privacy divide within society: cleaners, waiters etc don't have an expectation of privacy, those higher up do. > Do you expect privacy when you're in a shopping mall? No, everybody can walk in and out at any time. > You're in a building controlled by someone else, no renting going on. What is yo…

I'm not advocating anything. Also note that I might take issue with cameras even in areas where I don't expect to have privacy. In what way do those 'higher up' have privacy? Even a CEO is commonly able to be monitored by HR.

The CEO has it's own office. He can close the door. If he wants, there will be no surveillance.

He even has an employee hired to protect his privacy: his secretary, which sits in front of this door. 'No sorry, mister Buffet is not in right now'.

The cleaner, the factory worker etc has to work in public places an thus can ben surveilled 100% of the time?

> I'm not advocating anything

You are at least condoning surveillance of everything that is under YOUR control. 'My property', 'I am paying for this'. Expressing your opinion like this in this context can only be explained as advocacy.

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by finnn »

mschuster91 wrote: post #17
mapgrep wrote: post #15

Cool but some questions on the command line args: Call be dumb but I have no idea what my wireless NIC is called and that's the first arg to the script. How do I find out the handle for my wireless network card (I didn't even know it had a name), but also does anyone know why the script can't self detect that? Don't most people only have one? Ditto for the SSID, couldn't the script just figure out what SSID I'm conne…

On Linux, run ifconfig as root. The problem is that there's no naming convention for NIC names. Some systems use ethX for both wired and wireless systems, some ethX/wlanX, and some use wlx-(macaddress) unique name.

Why would you need to to root to see the list of network cards? ifconfig as non-root, or just ip addr, works fine.

Note that newer debian versions seem to have moved ifconfig to sbin so it's not in a normal user's $PATH

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by dhimes »

hughdbrown wrote: post #61
maxerickson wrote: post #51

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Flaunt roughly means to show off. I think you mean flouting the law. (edit: Nevermind, I see flaunt has both meanings)

The second meaning is an error, really, and gets flagged with usage notes. "4. The use of flaunt to mean “to ignore or treat with disdain” ( He flaunts community standards with his behavior) is strongly objected to by many usage guides, which insist that only flout can properly express this meaning. From its earliest appearance in English in the 16th century, flaunt has had the meanings “to display oneself conspicuou…

I love learning stuff like this. It reads like Fowler (especially the ironic "Once secure in .." example).

Re: Detect and disconnect WiFi cameras

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Post by the-dude »

dheera wrote: post #72
the-dude wrote: post #58

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> Do you expect privacy in the workplace? Yes. And I am in the position to demand it, or take another position. So we get a privacy divide within society: cleaners, waiters etc don't have an expectation of privacy, those higher up do. > Do you expect privacy when you're in a shopping mall? No, everybody can walk in and out at any time. > You're in a building controlled by someone else, no renting going on. What is yo…

You're a plumber in my house. I feel like I fully have the right to watch you as you repair my plumbing. You're a babysitter in my house. Babysitting my hypothetical baby. I feel like I would have the right to watch over that baby's treatment in someone else's hands. If you aren't going to let me watch over the quality of your services, I would just find someone else to provide those services. At some point, once we…

> I feel like I fully have the right to watch you as you repair my plumbing.

If you are present: yes.

I just realized the fight against surveillance is not particular with the NSA/GHQC and or the government.

It will be a fight within.

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