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Yahoo to Spin Off Its Core Businesses
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a sidebar, I've always kinda felt the name gets in the way. Yahoo! I feel silly saying it. I feel silly asking someone if they Yahoo!? It feels silly seeing it on stock tickers. Do I want to invest in a silly business? Work for a silly business? The answers are yes and yes in an objective world, if the company is producing interesting products that are selling. But when it comes to marketing to users, investors an…
The old ads were great, from the early 00s? Always ended with the dude screaming YaaahooooOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Memories.
I always hated those ads and also thought the name was silly, even at the time. But hey, they're still here.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guessing we are either going to see major changes in pricing structure, or a shutdown of Flickr. Pretty bummed.
Hard to say. There isn't a lot of direct competition. Smugmug probably comes closest (and I see their current pricing structure again makes it reasonable for non-professionals which it wasn't for a time). It really depends on how many people pay for a premium ("pro") flickr account which Yahoo seems to have been fairly ambivalent about collecting over the past few years. Personally, I'd find it something of a bummer…
I've been running my own site for displaying images; for backup, I have a dedicated server + synthing.
It's the archives I'd really, really miss, from people who more or less stopped taking photos.
If Flickr was to offer what Smugmug and 500px does for pros ( like direct upload from Lightroom, eyecandy portfolios, etc. ) instead of focusing on an app that uploads every picture it finds by default, I believe they'd see a return of the many and probable could become profitable. But this would need immediate and massive changes, which I don't think will happen at all.
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#74Yahoo management lacks vision. They had the most popular brand names in social media space, still couldn't innovate.
1. Messenger
2. Mail
3. Flickr
4. Tumblr
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#75It's core business is owning Alibaba shares, no?
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's perhaps the most twisted/obtuse definition of "running at a loss". Without their search engine, there is no advertising business.
Yes there is. A lot of Google's advertising business is selling ads on other people's sites, and they use the information from their search engine to target that; they could run the ad business without it (using data from Google Analytics and elsewhere) - after all it ran as an independent business when Doubleclick owned it. My understanding is that if search and ads were separate businesses and ads paid search for s…
According to their 10K [1] 76% of their advertising revenue and 68% of their total revenue comes from advertising on Google properties. Reducing their revenue by 76% surely wouldn't allow them to "run the ad business without it."
[1] Page 24, https://investor.google.com/pdf/20141231_google_10K.pdf
Re: Yahoo to Spin Off Its Core Businesses
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a sidebar, I've always kinda felt the name gets in the way. Yahoo! I feel silly saying it. I feel silly asking someone if they Yahoo!? It feels silly seeing it on stock tickers. Do I want to invest in a silly business? Work for a silly business? The answers are yes and yes in an objective world, if the company is producing interesting products that are selling. But when it comes to marketing to users, investors an…
> Yahoo! I feel silly saying it. I feel silly asking someone if they Yahoo!? Yeah, nothing like the gravitas and seriousness of Google.
"Google it" rolls off the tongue a lot better than "Yahoo it". Plus with Google's minimalist design (at least in the early years) they can get away with the silly name.
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#79The one and only question I need to ask: will flickr stay alive? The rest had been obsolete for a while anyway.
This can be answered by the question "Is Flickr profitable by itself?" If so, someone will certainly buy it. If not, who knows. My guess, someone will buy it and it'll languish for a year or two as the product strategy is developed and migration of technology occurs, then the new vision by new owners will be executed.
Yahoo has done a pretty good job with the languishing part all on its own. Though, snark aside, I think part of the issue is that it's not entirely clear what a next-generation photo site with a pro/prosumer slant looks like that's different from today. (And, of course, whatever changes you make are going to be hated by some percentage as was the case when flickr went through a redesign a few years back.)
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#80Again I ask, where should I take ~30GB of photos that I have on Flickr? Yes, I have other backups but I need offsite storage. Guess I'll have to budget for it now. Backblaze B2 isn't quite ready yet.
It depends if you want backup or sharing in the flickr vein. If the latter, Smugmug is probably the closest equivalent. It's not free but neither was a flickr pro account.