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Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by magicalist »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #62
magicalist wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly owns Mozilla Corp -- is not funded by Mozilla Corp, but relies entirely on donations. Mozilla Foundations is responsible for philantropic education and awareness campaigns. Like...what? This answer and the one below from the Foundation employee don't actually g…

You could just go to their website (www.mozilla.org) and find out.

There really isn't much information there (or at least I can't find it). I'm not attacking here, just giving my impression as a potential donor, albeit with some skepticism.

I was able to find information on the Ford-Mozilla Open Web Fellows program[1] and a list of events[2]. Funding for the first is obvious, for the second it seems like many of the events either aren't run by Mozilla, just recognized by them, or the funding isn't directly called out.

It would be great to see broken down what funding actually goes to. mozilla.org, as I said, seems to just be banking mostly on the Mozilla name (the phrase "Donate to Mozilla, the non-profit behind Firefox" doesn't exactly keep things clear). The donate page has no information on the subject, the Donate FAQ is a wiki page with no information on the subject.

As an example, the EFF has a great "Our Work" page[3], with a nice overview of a bunch of projects and big icons leading to really in-depth coverage of their work in each of six areas. The page also doubles as a nice portal into the subjects of interest themselves, if you want to know more.

[1] https://advocacy.mozilla.org/open-web-fellows/

[2] https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contribute/events/

[3] https://www.eff.org/issues

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by amooiman »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #65
amooiman wrote: post #9

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This is exactly right. I'm an engineer at the non-profit Mozilla Foundation, and these donations keep us working towards our mission (found at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/details/ ).

Hi amooiman, I love Mozilla. I've been following it since pretty much the beginning, and I think it's not getting the recognition it deserves. For example, if you read HN or Slashdot, it's always filled about negative reactions about Mozilla. Some of them have a point, but a lot of them are based on old misconceptions or wrong information. How do you feel about this and what do you think can be done about this? I fee…

I only started working here a few months ago so I'm still forming my thoughts, but I definitely agree with the general notion that there needs to be some better external visibility/clarity of what we're doing. I can tell you the people here are the most passionate I've met about what they're doing and the organization's mission as a whole, which excites me to log on for work every day in a way that other jobs haven't. As for negative reactions online, well, it's the internet and that's bound to happen. It's only reasonable to expend a certain amount of energy correcting people vs focusing on the work that matters.

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by dhemmerling »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #64
melling wrote: post #40

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All sounds warm and fuzzy to me. The Foundation should try to be more concrete in explaining what they do, and are currently accomplishing. Maybe this is already explained somewhere but I have no idea, and I'm a regular reader of HN, for example. Most people will spend even less time looking into it. The Mozilla Foundation/Corporation thing will only confuse people. Anyway, I'm donating kharma by explaining all of th…

So what you're saying is that you have a negative/cynic view about Mozilla Corp/Foundation, but couldn't be bothered to read the rest of their website to find out whether your view is correct, and won't change your viewpoint until someone makes it easy for you?

I think they're saying it's not the best way to go about asking someone for a gift of money. It's not all that cynical to be skeptical of vaguely defined goals.

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by PedroBatista »

newhnuser1 wrote: post #47
FooBarWidget wrote: post #2

Their FAQ ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_... ) contains pretty important information. In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly…

I used to donate five dollar per month for different free and open source software or foundations, I've given numerous such five dollars to Mozilla. However, Mozilla project is dead to me now. Firefox is getting objectively worse (XUL removal, Pocket etc.) and the Mozilla project lost when they carve into the bullies when the CEO was forced to resign for some random donations. I don't if you donate to Hitler, it's hi…

Agree 100%. The whole Brendan Eich debacle ended my relationship with Mozilla, not because it was a "bump in the road" but because it was a manifestation of the insidious mob mentality that took over most of Mozilla.

A significant proportion of "Mozillians" are either mercenaries trying to advance their career or SJW collecting the paycheck and using Mozilla as a platform for their own agendas, they couldn't care less about the Web and in the last 2/3 years the product shows it.

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by dominotw »

gkoberger wrote: post #58
blisterpeanuts wrote: post #49

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I stopped donating as well, and I used their contact link in the donation page to explain my reasons: I disagreed with hounding Eich out of his job, and if they want any more donations from me, they first must hire him back.

Most Mozilla employees vocally supported him, and he wasn't fired (he left on his own). He now has his own startup.

>>You demanded I be "completely removed from any day to day activities at Mozilla" & got your wish. I'm still unemployed. How're you?

https://twitter.com/brendaneich/status/583792067156946944

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by kevinzawacki »

magicalist wrote: post #52
FooBarWidget wrote: post #2

Their FAQ ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Donate#Don.27t_Mozilla_products.2C_... ) contains pretty important information. In particular, it answers why one should donate when Mozilla Corp makes money through corporate deals (e.g. Google and Yahoo search commissions). The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly…

> The answer is that all the money Mozilla Corp makes is reinvested back into Mozilla Corp (salaries etc). The Mozilla Foundation -- a non-profit which wholly owns Mozilla Corp -- is not funded by Mozilla Corp, but relies entirely on donations. Mozilla Foundations is responsible for philantropic education and awareness campaigns. Like...what? This answer and the one below from the Foundation employee don't actually g…

Donations to the Mozilla Foundation support work in the realms of education and advocacy. More specifically, this means gifts support the free, open source tools and curriculum at teach.mozilla.org, which teach skills like privacy, security, HTML, CSS and more. These activities and products are used in classrooms around the world.

A couple more examples: Thimble, our educational code editor (mzl.la/thimble), and Webmaker, our Android app for mobile-first Web users (mzl.la/webmaker).

Donor support also helps Mozilla fight for pressing issues like net neutrality and mass surveillance reform. Mozilla's community of donors provided the resources we needed to support a successful campaign for net neutrality in the U.S. this year, plus supported other advocacy campaigns internationally.

-Kevin (from the Mozilla Foundation)

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by j-pb »

They are dead to me since they tried to kill WebSQL/WebDB. Mozilla has become to the web what Stallman has become for emacs.

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by FooBarWidget »

amooiman wrote: post #72
FooBarWidget wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi amooiman, I love Mozilla. I've been following it since pretty much the beginning, and I think it's not getting the recognition it deserves. For example, if you read HN or Slashdot, it's always filled about negative reactions about Mozilla. Some of them have a point, but a lot of them are based on old misconceptions or wrong information. How do you feel about this and what do you think can be done about this? I fee…

I only started working here a few months ago so I'm still forming my thoughts, but I definitely agree with the general notion that there needs to be some better external visibility/clarity of what we're doing. I can tell you the people here are the most passionate I've met about what they're doing and the organization's mission as a whole, which excites me to log on for work every day in a way that other jobs haven't…

It's true that the Internet in general attracts negative reactions. But Mozilla is based on the Internet, so don't you think that these reactions are representative of the true demographic and that they should be given more weight?

Re: Donate mozilla

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Post by valiant_try »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #35

Have they thought about coordinating with Amazon to make Mozilla a SMILE partner? I usually donate through them to the EFF, but it would be cool to throw some of it Mozilla's way.

Mozilla does have an Amazon Smile account. I believe you start at smile.amazon.com and search for Mozilla.
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