What can we in tech do to help with this kind of situation?
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State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
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Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
#72Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Schengen will hold. But the outer borders of the union and the balkans will be militarized beyond belief.
It is already changing. Give it a few weeks. Sweden and Hungary have already put border controls back in place, France will likely do as well as a result of this attack at least for the foreseeable future. After that - and coupled with the immense increase of cross-border crime in the last decade - it will be a fairly easy step to rescind Schengen, if not in name then at least in spirit or on a 'temporary' basis. It'…
Border controls are one thing. Freedom of movements is another. Being forced to flash id card at the border is not the same as the border officer being able to refuse entry to a legal EU citizen.
Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
#74A disaster. Obviously don't know yet who is responsible, but I don't understand why France is being targeted in this way. They are hardly terrorist enemy number one.
They're an ex-colonial power that still throws it's weight around the geopolitical stage, and still sends it's military against the developing world. Just last week they moved their aircraft carrier to Syria, for example.
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How, physically? Do borders really... exist in the Schengen Zone? Like, how do they shut this down? https://www.google.com/maps/place/France/@49.5467828,5.43629...
With the military, from what I'm gathering.
Appears like the French military got fully mobilized. So I'd agree, military checkpoints at the borders seems plausible. They've certainly been setting up checkpoints all around Paris.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
What this means is that France surveillance and intelligence already failed.
And wholesale US intelligence failed also, either that or they kept the intelligence to themselves.
Possibly we knew but couldn't risk warning DGSE and compromising our sources.
Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
#77Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
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How awesome, awesome comment. People are dying and the only thing you care about is "totally total mass surveillance law"....
People are ALWAYS dying. Far more from preventable accidents, disease, and war than from terrorism. That does NOT make terrorism any less despicable. But those who use fear of atrocities to push their own oppressive agendas are little better than terrorists themselves. It's a sad truth that there's no question that many surveillance advocates will use an event like this to push their own agendas.
I'm far from a 'surveillance advocate' and yet I think that it is pretty tasteless of those on the opposite side of that fence to do exactly the same thing.
Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
#79Re: State of emergency declared across France after Paris shootings and explosions
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Meaning that the violence is a worse worry? Or meaning that you worry about other bills besides just surveillance?
Expansion of executive and police powers, I'd assume. In the worst case, you might even hear calls for internment.
I presume you mean internment of minorities, immigrants, and/or refugees?