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Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes. By the time the tow truck would arrive they would be long gone. This is at its heart the reason why this is an overzealous non-problem.

There are a lot of other crimes that can be committed before law enforcement would arrive. Would you suggest those are non-issues as well? It's hard for me to believe that you're not being a troll on purpose, and that you honestly are the sort of selfish person that you would deny someone access to or from their own home. Oh, wait, I think I get it. You don't own a house? That must be it. You're not a selfish jerk, y…

I actually rent a house with intent to buy soon. If someone did block my driveway, and I needed to get somewhere I would politely ask them to move because that's how human interaction should work. I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction.

If there were an emergency and my driveway was blocked I would probably drive through the grass as it is just grass and I have my priorities straight.

Having your driveway blocked for a couple minutes isn't the end of the world. If you don't have a couple minutes to spare in your day for something that may go wrong you're headed for trouble. Things go wrong constantly, that's life. You can either laugh or get worked up into a froth. You'll live longer doing the prior.

As for crimes, I would say victimless ones such as this should go unpunished. Costing someone hundreds of dollars to get their car back because they mildly inconvenienced you? You're doing far more harm to them than they did to you. That kind of enforcement just makes the world a much more unfriendly place, and does not serve the common good.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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The attempt to turn public property into the property of the locals reminds me of a similar, non-tech-related case, also in LA - Malibu beaches. According to the law of the state of California, all beaches are public property. Of course, this gets a bit complicated when an individual owns the land in front of the beach. The people who buy houses in Malibu would, of course, prefer to have a private beach section. So t…

In a similar case here in NJ, a local town was working to effectively block access to its beaches by non-residents by enacting an onerous parking restriction (no out-of-towners may park for more than 2 hours on any street near the beach).

http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2015/10/deal_reportedly...

The real insult here is that the town had recently accepted federal funds ($40mm) to widen and improve the beach, so blocking access seemed a little unfair if not illegal. Additionally most of the houses near the beach are only occupied in the summer season. So really, who is a "resident" when many are really only there in the summer?

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #61
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it outright illegal? Can't you get them towed?

Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes. By the time the tow truck would arrive they would be long gone. This is at its heart the reason why this is an overzealous non-problem.

> Yes, but no one stays at a yard sale for more than 2 or 3 minutes

That would be an exceptionally short visit to a yard sale. No way do you actually manage to buy something in less than 180 seconds.

More likely, they'll be there for 10-15 minutes. That's still too short for a tow truck to come, but it's not too short to be an inconvenience.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #60

Similar issue in Sausalito above the Bridge. Wolfback Ridge Rd is a publicly maintained road yet they have a gate and sign that says otherwise. It is strictly enforced by Sausalito Police on behalf of residents. There's some great short hikes up there that offer excellent views of the Golden Gate Bridge and headlands. Even google didn't dare go up there: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8512481,-122.4911711,3a,75y,...…

Isn't it unlawful for the police to stop you under these conditions (peacefully using a public road without any suggestion of criminal activity or intent)?

Surprised that no-one would do this with recording equipment and then sue for unlawful arrest or whatever, or have they?

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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Everybody hates tourists and it's hilarious. You live in a place that exists because of and is sustained by tourism and yet you hate all the people who come there and spend money. Here's an idea: move to a place that tourists don't like.

I'm pretty sure the Hollywood Hills aren't leaning real hard on the tourism industry.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

#78
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are a lot of other crimes that can be committed before law enforcement would arrive. Would you suggest those are non-issues as well? It's hard for me to believe that you're not being a troll on purpose, and that you honestly are the sort of selfish person that you would deny someone access to or from their own home. Oh, wait, I think I get it. You don't own a house? That must be it. You're not a selfish jerk, y…

I actually rent a house with intent to buy soon. If someone did block my driveway, and I needed to get somewhere I would politely ask them to move because that's how human interaction should work. I'm not trolling, I'm making a general plea for more cool headed reasonable human interaction. If there were an emergency and my driveway was blocked I would probably drive through the grass as it is just grass and I have m…

I was cool headed when i asked them to please not block my driveway. They got hot headed and argued because they are rude people.

I couldn't potentially drive through my grass yard (if I had needed to) because all the non rude people were properly and legally parking along the grass in front of my house. (At various times, sure, I could, but not always. It was a pretty popular event).

Edit: For clarity.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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I have a lot of sympathy for people when some new things moves into their neighborhood and causes a disruption. On the other hand, I have about as much respect for these people, since the sign predates them, as I do for people who move next to farms and try to shut them down because of the smell. I think there is a special place in hell for people who alter data on public spaces.

Re: Why people keep trying to erase the Hollywood sign from Google Maps (2014)

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post #62

Reminds me of lombard street [1]. It can be pretty tiring for the residents to see a constant barrage of tourists, stopping their vehicles on the street to take pictures. Imagine leaving or returning home at "peak tourist hours", how difficult it would be to drive your car near your home. I guess the burden is on a home owner to figure out what they are walking into when they buy a house near a popular tourist attrac…

Come on... they're buying a house on Lombard Street. What do they seriously expect? It would be like buying one of the Painted Ladies and then complaining that everyone is taking photos of your house.
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