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Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by HaloZero »

cguess wrote: post #26
Mikushi wrote: post #21

Clever idea and use of technology, not surprised to see Apple reject as they want nothing to do with either concepts. As a developer I will never develop for, support, condone or recommend Apple products to anyone I know because of such behaviour, they want a wall garden, good for them, but I'll have no active part in it.

Really really obvious reason they did this. People are dumb. Someone, probably very soon, and probably more than one or even ten people, would overload the weight and crack their screen. At which point they would show up at the Apple Store DEMANDING a brand new phone. When they didn't get the repair because they're too stupid to understand how glass works they would contact CNN or HuffPo or whatever and there'd be a…

They allow the apps which the point of the game is to throw it up as high as you can. I imagine that's not it.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by Tloewald »

roosterjm2k2 wrote: post #62
threeseed wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's position is actually very easy to understand. Don't do anything that is likely to cause significant harm to them. Examples of this include: (a) negative press publicity e.g. porn app, drone strike app, (b) stealing from or harming their customers and of course (c) this app where they will have to cover the cost of you putting heavy objects on something that it was never designed to do. If you want to damage y…

I don't buy it. Where is the negative publicity on android? It doesn't exist... There are apps that many people find offensive on the play store... just like there are movies on amazon that some people would find offensive... same thing..

The negative publicity on Android for bad taste or stupid/dangerous apps (remember "Send me to heaven"? the app that measured how high you threw your phone?) is probably swamped by the bad publicity from malware and spyware. The thing about the App store is so little bad news comes out of it that all the hysteria is over minor stuff (e.g. Apple accidentally banning Civil War games).

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by smokeyj »

msbarnett wrote: post #69
smokeyj wrote: post #49

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Then why allow safari? There's so many scary things online, why would they endorse such things?

Because Dateline can't build a concern-trolling episode around "Are iPhones Youth-Corrupting Pornography Machines" when everything and your toaster has a web browser. Every criticism would equally apply to Android and your laptop. It's water off the brand's back. But if Apple is literally taking money and distributing pornography, a news unit is shooting that story tomorrow. Nintendo faces many of the same problems,…

Explain to simpletons like myself how pornography distribution is like measuring weight. I'd love to draw the connection but I'm afraid logic prevails.

Furthermore, if Dateline is an influencing force in Apple product decisions - remind me to smash my iPhone into a million proprietary pieces.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by TeMPOraL »

fpgeek wrote: post #54
CyberDildonics wrote: post #48

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And 16 year olds take pictures and effectively create child porn, but how far are you going to go to protect someone from being ridiculous?

Image recognition is improving all the time. Don't give them any ideas...

Haven't we learned from that Lego MMO that penis police doesn't work?

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by TeMPOraL »

threeseed wrote: post #25
tsotha wrote: post #14

>Apple has a moral and ethical onus to make the right choices be it related to the confederate flag, changing drug laws, or using emoji to fight bullying, and we respect that. I can't decide if he really respects that or if he's still hoping to get his app approved. Companies should not be in the business of trying to enforce (clearly unenforceable) laws by removing features that do perfectly legal things.

But companies equally have a right to own the experience. Creating an app to harvest hardware identifiers and using that to track them is legal. But it tarnishes the experience of their product and is anti-consumer by every definition. Apple should have the ability not to allow that. Just because something is legal does not make it morally or ethically "right".

I'm a bit torn on this. On the one hand, I hate how not having ultra strict UX guidelines turns Android app ecosystem into shit (with every major app maker providing their own crap experience). On the other hand, I firmly believe the right of a company to control the "experience" I get from using a tool I bought from them should end the second I walk out of their store.

If they are to tell me how I can and can not use my device (above what the law says), then it's not my device, and it's not a tool.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by [deleted] »

vinbreau wrote: post #68
cguess wrote: post #26

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Really really obvious reason they did this. People are dumb. Someone, probably very soon, and probably more than one or even ten people, would overload the weight and crack their screen. At which point they would show up at the Apple Store DEMANDING a brand new phone. When they didn't get the repair because they're too stupid to understand how glass works they would contact CNN or HuffPo or whatever and there'd be a…

I did Apple support from 2000-2010 and I find this is a ridiculous argument. Apple constantly gives out free phones. I've given a free iPhone (5th replacement) for a guy who dropped his phone at a construction site and it was run over by an industrial vehicle. I've given a free phone to a famous tennis start because she threw it across the room in a fit of rage. I denied tons of free iPhones to people affected by Aen…

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Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by msbarnett »

smokeyj wrote: post #74
msbarnett wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Dateline can't build a concern-trolling episode around "Are iPhones Youth-Corrupting Pornography Machines" when everything and your toaster has a web browser. Every criticism would equally apply to Android and your laptop. It's water off the brand's back. But if Apple is literally taking money and distributing pornography, a news unit is shooting that story tomorrow. Nintendo faces many of the same problems,…

Explain to simpletons like myself how pornography distribution is like measuring weight. I'd love to draw the connection but I'm afraid logic prevails. Furthermore, if Dateline is an influencing force in Apple product decisions - remind me to smash my iPhone into a million proprietary pieces.

> Explain to simpletons like myself how pornography distribution is like measuring weight. I'd love to draw the connection but I'm afraid logic prevails.

Reread thread. This grew out of discussion about Apple forbidding apps with confederate flags etc. Inflammatory, controversial content.

Y'know, like pornography.

The weight thing is obviously much simpler: Apple doesn't want to be the punchline on a lolpiece on the 6 o'clock news about "Are people breaking their iPhones with controversial new 'scale' apps? Find out after news and weather with chuckles the rain stooge"

> Furthermore, if Dateline is an influencing force in Apple product decisions - remind me to smash my iPhone into a million proprietary pieces.

News Organizations are absolutely an influencing force in any major brand's decision making processes. All brands live in utter terror of being on the wrong side of a "won't somebody please think of the children??" shit-storm.

You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Re: Turning the iPhone 6s Into a Digital Scale

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Post by TeMPOraL »

dkokelley wrote: post #36
jack-r-abbit wrote: post #28

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... and then carrying that scale around like you do a phone? Lots of things are being replaced by phones/apps because you always have your phone. Do you always have your scale?

While I personally can't recall a time when a scale-in-my-pocket would have measurably improved my life, I will concede that often capability leads utility. Maybe a future where everyone's phones are also reliable scales will fulfill needs we didn't know we had.

One use: grocery stores will stop bother cheating on you with miscalibrated scales.
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