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To be fair -- the hat tip should probably go to Path.

No. Slack has innovated literally every advancement in chat for the last 20 years.

I can tell that you're trying to be sarcastic, but I've heard enough good things about Slack that it was hard to catch.

If you're not being sarcastic... well, I think Shank summed it up pretty well.

Re: Facebook Reactions

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No. Slack has innovated literally every advancement in chat for the last 20 years.

That's not the right use of literally, and at best, is a good use of hyperbole. 20 years is a long time. 20 years ago, SMS wasn't a thing, and IRC and internet chatrooms were more popular. As time goes on, you have things like MSN, Yahoo! Messenger, etc. Emoji were invented after 20 years ago.

Oh, I know what literally means, my friend :-)

But your reply literally made my head explode.

Re: Facebook Reactions

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Livejournal's "mood icons" were the first thing I thought of.

(Though the standing joke with LJ was that they could save space by eliminating all the mood icons except for "angsty"...)

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Why all the negativity here? You can still like things, comment with text, or just not use Facebook. Nobody will ever be forced to use these emoticons, and nobody at Facebook is saying you can only express these 6 emotions while using Facebook. I also don't get why everyone feels FB owes them a dislike button. It seems like that would be a bad feature. Personally, I think it's a good change. It won't change Facebook…

I think the frustration is that around a month ago Zuckaberg himself was hitting the media to drum up speculation, "Is it time to add a dislike button". I think it's more a matter of failure to deliver on said hype as expected.

Simply, for around a month we've been challenged to consider, is a dislike button something you might use? "Ok I suppose YES". Well then here's the new features. "Wait?! Where the dislike button you mentioned?". "Dislike! And crap that reminds me you didn't add the dislike button I want to use right now to dislike that you left the button out!!"

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No. Slack has innovated literally every advancement in chat for the last 20 years.

I can tell that you're trying to be sarcastic, but I've heard enough good things about Slack that it was hard to catch. If you're not being sarcastic... well, I think Shank summed it up pretty well.

Lookit, I love Slack. Used it extensively in a huge team.

But I do get tired of the constant thing around HN whenever a company releases some new feature, people immediately post a "Well, credit should really go to XYZ who did it first".

Sometimes the other company did launch a similar feature first, sometimes the features aren't that similar, and more often than not, everyone is copying from everyone. (and that's ok)

Re: Facebook Reactions

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Wow I'm so excited that I can now express myself with a range of Facebook approved emotions!

Dismayed that middlebrow dismissals like this still reign supreme on HN, this seems like a cheap shot comment. Obviously you can express yourself however you wish on Facebook through comments, pictures, etc; they've actually broadened your options for doing so here.

I'm not sure it's a middlebrow dismissal, it's well-timed sarcasm which points to an important issue: Facebook deciding which emotions and expressions are first class citizens and which aren't is troubling.

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Imagine you're at an automated restaurant. There are buttons for "order fries", "order cake", "order sandwich", and "do not order pie". Can you see why the last button in that list is not as useful as the first three? Positive sentiment needs no explanation because it inherits the context of the thing it is agreeing with; negative sentiment needs explanation else it is somewhere between useless and nonsense.

I don't have enough karma to downvote you, so I'm replying to you to tell you that everything you posted is a load of hogwash and your analogy is bad. Of course negative sentiment also "inherits the context of the thing it is (dis)agreeing with." You glean just as much information from someone clicking Like and leaving no context as you do someone clicking Dislike and leaving no context.

> You glean just as much information from someone clicking Like and leaving no context as you do someone clicking Dislike and leaving no context.

I disagree; Perhaps a programming analogy instead?

if(x == 0) # when this is true, you know what x is, and what it isn't

if(x != 0) # when this is true, you only know what x isn't

Like with no context tells the receiver what the audience wants (more of the same); dislike doesn't (okay, so don't do this thing, but do what instead?).

That's what I mean by the analogy - "do this" is a much more useful statement than "don't do that".

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Policy? Maybe not, but the apparent lack of downvote buttons seem to indicate that the ethos of "discussion over downvotes" is on the mark.

Not everyone lacks downvote buttons. I have them. I don't know how you get them, but I assume it's related to account age and/or karma.

Looking at the responses to the parent, i wish there was also a "mark comment as duplicate" button. Maybe i still lack the karma!

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They worked well on Path and Slack

Emoticons are different than "engagement" buttons, unless you are talking about a feature I don't know about.

There are so called "reaction" buttons in Slack, easy to add with "Add a reaction" menu item on a message.
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