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That said though, none of this is going to matter unless there's a good tutorial. Nothing currently available is cutting it as a tutorial.
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But in this context (a rather garish butterfly logo), what does it mean?
Not overtly masculine? I can imagine the temptation was there for some to promote an overly aggressive logo.
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1. Go-hate isn't hard to find, especially on HN. 2. Liking Go != liking the mascot 3. I think most would agree this is ridiculous: https://www.googlemerchandisestore.com/Google+Redesign/Brand...
This is also cute.
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Not overtly masculine? I can imagine the temptation was there for some to promote an overly aggressive logo.
The idea that masculinity is akin to misogyny is as dangerous and harmful as misogyny itself. As is the idea that aggression is a purely masculine trait, or that any of the traits Larry listed are exclusively feminine.
> As is the idea that aggression is a purely masculine trait
I didn't say it was a purely masculine trait, but to ignore the clear association between masculinity and aggression in many cultures is to ignore reality. There are many social, economic and (possibly) evolutionary reasons why men are often more aggressive than women. Couple this with the relative involvement of women in CS and programming positions, and I don't think it's a stretch to say that aggression in our industry can be seen as overly masculine.
Larry Wall is speaking at the San Francisco Perl Mongers meeting this evening. Along with most of my team at work, my wife and I are going to attend this event. The biggest of the three big items remaining in Perl 6 development before GA has been completed, give or take. (The Great List Refactor) I'm not 100% sure of the status of the other two, but I think the Unicode stuff is also well on its way as well. My predic…
Is it usable, performance-wise, in production yet? The company I work for (also a perl 5 shop) gave MoarVM a try about a year ago with a toy application, and it was just unusably slow. The task was just receiving some JSON on a TCP socket, decoding it, and sending a static response, but the round trip time was large enough that the server that made the request marked the transaction as 'timed-out' every time. (This i…
I recall a few months ago that a hand full of the benchmarks on JVM were actually running faster than Perl 5.latest, though most were slower.
Perl 6 is far, far more optimizable than Perl 5, and also most similar languages. The long-term focus on correct first is finally paying off.
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This is also cute.
The plush toy is cute, but it's the fact that Google monetizes an open source programming language by selling plushies that I find ridiculous
OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or e…
I obviously can't speak for everyone but there are no changes to the website that would change the attitude about Perl here at work. Twenty years of unmaintainable Perl code has convinced management that it needs to be eradicated. Note: I'm not bashing Perl here - developers using any language can create unmaintainable code. The move towards producing enterprise-level software has included increasing salaries to the…
Especially when they conflate two completely different languages to boot.
There's nothing to take away here other than "some people are beyond being helped".
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Not overtly masculine? I can imagine the temptation was there for some to promote an overly aggressive logo.
The idea that masculinity is akin to misogyny is as dangerous and harmful as misogyny itself. As is the idea that aggression is a purely masculine trait, or that any of the traits Larry listed are exclusively feminine.
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The idea that masculinity is akin to misogyny is as dangerous and harmful as misogyny itself. As is the idea that aggression is a purely masculine trait, or that any of the traits Larry listed are exclusively feminine.
Larry didn't say it should be feminine, nor did he imply it. He also didn't say masculinity is misogyny. At most he called for something androgynous. I think to interpret his statements otherwise is projecting. > As is the idea that aggression is a purely masculine trait I didn't say it was a purely masculine trait, but to ignore the clear association between masculinity and aggression in many cultures is to ignore r…
> I also take it as a given that we want to discourage misogyny in our community.
All I want to know is what does the one have to do with the other? What does a butterfly logo have to do with the concept of sexism towards women? That's it. That's my question. I have no idea how to state it more simply.
Someone suggested that "discouraging misogyny" does not necessarily mean femininity, so I asked what "discouraging misogyny" does mean in this context, and you replied "not overtly masculine".
That response does not simply allude to the idea that masculinity is misogyny, it is literally saying that masculinity is misogyny. Hence my reply that the very idea is itself sexist and dangerous. It was my response to your saying masculinity is misogyny, and your interpretation of Larry's original statement about the logo to mean as such. That is not projecting, that is simple reading comprehension.