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Re: Block and Unsubscribe

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Post by jamiek88 »

logicallee wrote: post #48
hesselink wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It says they go to Spam, so I assume it will be treated like other spam (autodelete after 30 days, IIRC).

(What I'm writing applies to individuals, not mailing lists.) I think a bounce would be preferable! Why waste someone's time? I think it should only hell-ban via a special checkmark. By default it should cause a bounce saying that this person is not receiving email from that address. Then neither sender nor recipient have their time wasted going forward. I mean for the 0.01% of cases where someone would literally cre…

Why should we the general public worry about being 'fair' to spammers?

It's like the whole ad block thing. Now people have the power to do something about it they are asked to be 'reasonable' and won't somebody please think of the advertisers?

Nope. They had their chance to be fair with us. Techies have always been able to block such stuff but now it's seeping into the normal users ability/ ux upgrades hide complexity of doing so.

I feel as sorry for the spammers and ad trackers as I did for Borders when Amazon came along. Not at all.

Re: Block and Unsubscribe

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Post by BowBun »

chubot wrote: post #50
cdnsteve wrote: post #39

Hilton hotels, can't unsubscribe because of account login forced. This is my new fix!

It's amazing how many unsubscribe links, which are mandated by law, are broken or flaky. I just "report spam" now when that happens, and it totally works. No regrets.

I can see how people get annoyed (I do), but I think this strategy is harmful to some companies. For example, I work for a web company that sends out a LOT of emails as reminders for events. ISPs (or some other web intermediary, I'm not sure) have rankings based on your likelihood to spam. A lot of spammy emails are already caught in the filter, and either don't go through or go to your spam folder. We work pretty hard to clear up misunderstandings that could harm our email rating so that users don't miss important events.

That all being said, reporting spam instead of unsubscribe could hurt their email rankings in the future. Obviously I'm not talking about VIAGRA6969.NZ, but avoid the spam button if the company is respectable at all.

Re: Block and Unsubscribe

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Post by kpcyrd »

wnevets wrote: post #6
byoung2 wrote: post #3

Does anyone know how the unsubscribe feature works? Does it follow the unsubscribe link in the email, or does it use some other mechanism?

I believe it uses a header the sender includes with the email http://www.list-unsubscribe.com/

Also a cool way for a spammer to verify if somebody is receiving those mails.

Re: Block and Unsubscribe

#74

Post by JoeAltmaier »

BowBun wrote: post #72
chubot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing how many unsubscribe links, which are mandated by law, are broken or flaky. I just "report spam" now when that happens, and it totally works. No regrets.

I can see how people get annoyed (I do), but I think this strategy is harmful to some companies. For example, I work for a web company that sends out a LOT of emails as reminders for events. ISPs (or some other web intermediary, I'm not sure) have rankings based on your likelihood to spam. A lot of spammy emails are already caught in the filter, and either don't go through or go to your spam folder. We work pretty ha…

I see how that advice benefits your company. But it doesn't benefit me, much. I'd prefer to err on the side of pushing that button too much.

Re: Block and Unsubscribe

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Post by awakeasleep »

BowBun wrote: post #72
chubot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing how many unsubscribe links, which are mandated by law, are broken or flaky. I just "report spam" now when that happens, and it totally works. No regrets.

I can see how people get annoyed (I do), but I think this strategy is harmful to some companies. For example, I work for a web company that sends out a LOT of emails as reminders for events. ISPs (or some other web intermediary, I'm not sure) have rankings based on your likelihood to spam. A lot of spammy emails are already caught in the filter, and either don't go through or go to your spam folder. We work pretty ha…

If your company forces me to sign in before I can unsubscribe, it's not a respectable company and I want to hurt it- desperately.

Re: Block and Unsubscribe

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Post by ascagnel_ »

kpcyrd wrote: post #73
wnevets wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe it uses a header the sender includes with the email http://www.list-unsubscribe.com/

Also a cool way for a spammer to verify if somebody is receiving those mails.

True, but that's a low- to no-value lede; you're not very likely to sell to someone that's actively trying to avoid you.

Re: Block and Unsubscribe

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Post by jebblue »

This looks great! I'd really love to see Google and Microsoft stop people from registering a new account to send spam to my accounts. If my humble Postfix/Spamassassin configuration can correctly identify them as spam; I'd expect Google and Microsoft to be able to do the same and stop those messages before they are sent, particularly when they have virus document attachments. I just got another one yesterday.
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