Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

Post by monstruoso » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 2:13 PM UTC

arxpoetica wrote: post #49

It's offensive, a sad commentary on humanity, and I don't mind being down voted on Hacker News for stating it openly. (Actually, if you really want to do things right, just flip me off, yes?)

Post by chaosfox » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 2:26 PM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #38

omginternets wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't disagree with the premise that free speech is important, but it's hard to argue that the absence of a middle-finger emoji is preventing people from being nasty to each other on the internet. This changes nothing of consequence (but I personally see no reason not to include it).

Indeed, people were already using _|_ before that. (I vaguely remember a bit of Haskell humour around using that sequence of characters...)

Post by elektromekatron » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 2:34 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #37

aaron695 wrote: post #27

This is a symbol that will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years. If not much much more. The fact it's even in discussion if it should be there is a huge free flow of speech rights issue. I'd like to think if you're on hn you see the problems around the fact this was not there years ago. I want a world were people can communicate exactly as they wish. Not by a standard, especially a standard with mor…

Because before emoticons, there was no free speech? Also, this may be informative: [1] Finally, you may be right that this finger symbol will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years, but I suspect that often it will end the conversation. Hence the symbol may be considered as part of "speech" but it will certainly not aid "communication". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce.…

Post by eric_h » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 2:49 PM UTC

profinger wrote: post #71

aaron695 wrote: post #27

This is a symbol that will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years. If not much much more. The fact it's even in discussion if it should be there is a huge free flow of speech rights issue. I'd like to think if you're on hn you see the problems around the fact this was not there years ago. I want a world were people can communicate exactly as they wish. Not by a standard, especially a standard with mor…

This is similar to stupid crap like Swype and Google's version of it both not inserting curse words when I gesture type them. It's not their business to butt into mine. If I want to gesture type a curse word I should be able to. I understand the issue of possible mistypes being a problem but that's why you turn them off by default and give someone a simple solution to turn them back on.

Post by amelius » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 3:03 PM UTC

elektromekatron wrote: post #76

amelius wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because before emoticons, there was no free speech? Also, this may be informative: [1] Finally, you may be right that this finger symbol will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years, but I suspect that often it will end the conversation. Hence the symbol may be considered as part of "speech" but it will certainly not aid "communication". [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce.…

Communicating that a conversation is now at an end is often a useful feature, rather than a bug.