This linked video is very interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpUc8lj-CY
Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
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Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#72Lovely, but my favorite is http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-Living-Through-a-Coup reportedly from a person who's survived quite a few back in the day.
"Has your country's dictator been overthrown? Did he seem fatherly and protective or just overbearing and threatening? Are you feeling confused as to what to feel? Have you exchanged one bad situation for another? Has the military decided they know better how to run things? If any of these things apply to you, you'll find yourself in a country in turmoil and it's time to think about your immediate survival needs."
It contains plenty of seasoned, golden advice, eg.
"Don't panic. The worst thing to do in any situation is to panic."
As well as some useful guidelines on how to deal with harsh political reality of a revolution:
"If there are more than one party up for vote, request time with them to see what they believe in. Pick the one that more closely fits with your values."
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jesus Christ I'm tired If this, get off your high horse and have the guts to have "a reasonable discussion" on a topic that doesn't fit within your comfort zone. You are a coward for posting your snide comment on an attempt to look intellectually superior. The state of the police in the US is a disease... Defend that if you're so inclined. Your snipey comment to try to quell discourse is abhorrent, and shows you're i…
The comment you responded to was about the utility of quickly filing missing persons reports. Your response said that people with dementia filed as missing would be lucky to survive an encounter with a police officer. It seems like you have an axe to grind that is completely irrelevant to the topic of discussion. I don't know your political inclinations but your arguments are illogical and confusing. I said it would…
I would say that your stab at reddit was just as meaningless as his initial comment. Why didn't you post what you just posted in the first place? If you really want to help keep HN clean, avoid the snide one-liners. Either leave it at a down-vote or post a proper reply.
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
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> The pinnacle of laser surveillance ... hundreds of meters I suspect the limitation is atmospheric distortion which astronomers have pretty much solved a ways back, by observing a laser pilot beam. Considering they can look through about a dozen km of air (upwards) like that, it's not a stretch to think spook gear can go a dozen km horizontally to a window. That said, that's not a haystack tech; someone would be ont…
The spooks do use similar technology to process downwards-looking images, but I still don't think they're at the point of reading your conversation off your windows from space, though, based off of the maturity of the various systems.
Does it matter, for practical purposes, if they do laser acoustics to your windows from space, or from a drone a few miles away?
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#75It's a really interesting topic and I'd say I was disappointed by the article for several reasons: 1. Very outdated in terms of the extent to which people hiding today would leave a digital signature. The article literally suggests leaving no available photographs of you, to the point where acquaintances have to work with a sketch artist to put your picture out. 2. Some very naive suggestions for jobs to take while o…
>1. Very outdated in terms of the extent to which people hiding today would leave a digital signature. The article literally suggests leaving no available photographs of you, to the point where acquaintances have to work with a sketch artist to put your picture out.
Number 1 would be nearly impossible for me. Facebook has many photos other people uploaded which include me. My parents and girlfriend probably have more photos of me than I do of myself.
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
You left out the part where the cops with an IQ Cops are incapable of servicing the greater need any further the system is broken.
Reddit would be a better place for comments like this. HN is for reasonable discussion
half of the people shot and killed by police are vulnerable people with a mental illness.
It's a reasonable point made in an unhelpful inflammatory way.
In 30th June 2015 WP had this article (reporting that about a quarter of the people shot and killed by US police that year had a mental illness. The police had often been called out by relatives who wanted help, but who didn't want their loved one shot and killed).
Here's a grauniad report that talks about the differing news coverage of US shootings of dogs (lots of coverage) and mentally ill people (local news). I'm not sure that bit is accurate: plenty of dogs are killed by US police with little media mention. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/03/idaho-police-...
That report talks about the total number of people shot and killed by US police, and about the amount of them who had mental illness, and links to this 2013 PDF that says about 1,000 people are shot and killed by US police each year, and that about half of them have a mental illness. (Scarily the US doesn't collect statistics about this! That's, I think, telling.) http://tacreports.org/storage/documents/2013-justifiable-hom...
> Although no national data is collected, multiple informal studies and accounts support the conclusion that “at least half of the people shot and killed by police each year in this country have mental health problems.”
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jesus Christ I'm tired If this, get off your high horse and have the guts to have "a reasonable discussion" on a topic that doesn't fit within your comfort zone. You are a coward for posting your snide comment on an attempt to look intellectually superior. The state of the police in the US is a disease... Defend that if you're so inclined. Your snipey comment to try to quell discourse is abhorrent, and shows you're i…
The comment you responded to was about the utility of quickly filing missing persons reports. Your response said that people with dementia filed as missing would be lucky to survive an encounter with a police officer. It seems like you have an axe to grind that is completely irrelevant to the topic of discussion. I don't know your political inclinations but your arguments are illogical and confusing. I said it would…
> Your response said that people with dementia filed as missing would be lucky to survive an encounter with a police officer.
Relatives often call the police when someone with a mental health problem is in distress or has gone for a walk or whatever.
We don't know how many encounters with police end happily. We do know that Many of the encounters that end with a loved one being shot started when a relative called the police.
(Obviously this is in the US. Other countries have plenty of police involvement with mentally ill people, who are sometimes armed with similar weapons to the US cases, that don't end with the ill person being killed.)
I agree with you about how that point is being made.
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reddit would be a better place for comments like this. HN is for reasonable discussion
half of the people shot and killed by police are vulnerable people with a mental illness. It's a reasonable point made in an unhelpful inflammatory way. In 30th June 2015 WP had this article (reporting that about a quarter of the people shot and killed by US police that year had a mental illness. The police had often been called out by relatives who wanted help, but who didn't want their loved one shot and killed). H…
Suicide by cop is a thing and if you aggressively go after officers it is safe to say you may have a mental illness.
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The pinnacle of laser surveillance (which is actually a real thing) is measured in the hundreds of meters. You skipped the very next line, which says exactly this. On top of that, while I don't think satellite laser listening tech exists, we don't in fact know what they are capable off.
I work with environmental data, part of which includes global measurement of wind speed at the water surface. Now, I'm certainly not an expert on how the sensors work exactly, but as far as I have read, satellites bounce microwaves off the surface of the water, where the wind creates ripples - not the big waves, but the small ones, often less than a centimeter in height. The scatterometer then analyzes the height dif…
Scatterometry is not accurately measuring distances or a elevation model. Instead it relies "on the fact that winds moving over the sea influence the radar backscattering properties of its surface in a manner that is related to wind speed and wind direction."
Source: http://www.esa.int/esapub/bulletin/bullet102/Gelsthorpe102.p...
Re: Vanishing Point: How to disappear in America without a trace (2012)
#80Rather interesting, though, the scope is limited to USA alone. Supposing you make your way out of USA, a good solution for restarting your life is to join the French Foreign Legion. They'll take recruits from 17.5 - 39.5 years old. No questions asked, for a year. You literally start with a new name, an assumed identity which is a sign-up requirement. Their tagline is "the school of second chance." You get fed, you ge…
This is completely inaccurate. They are highly selective and flooded with ex military from 3rd world countries. So a pudgy middle class westerner would have problems. There's a reddit AMA and a Vice article about it if you google. Also,it takes years before you get the citizenship.
Thanks for rightfully pointing out edge cases. I believe they excluded the VICE guy because he had a digital footprint that identified him, and that's a completely unfounded opinion. I'm not naive to think that there's not a vetting process, but when you're in dire straits, you need some hope and that's what FFL represents.