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Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

#71

Post by lucb1e » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:14 PM UTC

I was going to sign up for this immediately. Then I read the FAQ:

- No IPv6 -- sucks, but I can live with that

- No IPv4 -- WTF? NAT on a server?!

- A credit card is required. I can't pay them. Asked via support, they confirm credit card is the only way.

- I still haven't found where the instances are physically located. (Edit: it's in the "General FAQ", not in the "Server FAQ".)

I really, really like the idea, but they have a long way to go.

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

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Post by superasn » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:16 PM UTC

JosephRedfern wrote: post #17

I've just signed up for one of these instances - here are some speed tests/stats/details, if anyone's interested: https://gist.github.com/JosephRedfern/57c81ac95bf4f1175e3e If you'd like anything in particular running, let me know and I shall oblige when I can!

Do you think it is possible to run the android emulator on this server? Or will it be an issue because it's running on armhf?

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

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Post by Marat_Dukhan » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:17 PM UTC

kdeldycke wrote: post #64

m_eiman wrote: post #15

Nitpicking the submission title ("ARM7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month"): ARM7 is actually very old ARM cores running ARMv4; these servers are ARMv7.

To be even more specific, these CPU are produced by Marvell under the name Armada 370/XP (according /proc/cpuinfo), and are based on ARM's Cortex A9 design (source: https://scaleway.com/faq/server/#-Why-did-you-choose-ARM ).

According to /proc/cpuinfo, CPU Implementer is 0x56 ('V' = Marvell) and CPU part is 0x584 (Marvell Armada XP). This is most likely not Cortex A9 (which would have CPU Implementer == 0x41 and CPU part == 0xC09), but Marvell's own PJ4 microarchitecture.

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

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Post by Sami_Lehtinen » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:17 PM UTC

CodingGuy wrote: post #40

Low cost hoster Hetzner also launched an ARM based dedicated server a few days ago: https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-p...

Kimsufi has been also providing cheapish dedicated servers (non-arm) for a long time: http://www.kimsufi.com/uk/

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

#75

Post by kdeldycke » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:17 PM UTC

zero_iq wrote: post #28

An interesting clause in the terms and conditions: * Users recognise that piracy harms artistic creation.

Likely a side effect of French laws.

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

#76

Post by kdeldycke » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:18 PM UTC

Fiahil wrote: post #62

Kudos to the folks at Scaleway, and mostly their engineering teams :)

Thanks ! :)

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

#77

Post by sweetcakes_2600 » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:48 PM UTC

Gedrovits wrote: post #25

m_eiman wrote: post #15

Nitpicking the submission title ("ARM7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month"): ARM7 is actually very old ARM cores running ARMv4; these servers are ARMv7.

Fixed this up, sorry, don't have a lot of knowledge about ARM architecture.

Is everyone able to fix submission title on HN now or do you have some special status (e.g. mod or high karma)?

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

#78

Post by tankenmate » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 2:56 PM UTC

lucb1e wrote: post #71

I was going to sign up for this immediately. Then I read the FAQ: - No IPv6 -- sucks, but I can live with that - No IPv4 -- WTF? NAT on a server?! - A credit card is required. I can't pay them. Asked via support, they confirm credit card is the only way. - I still haven't found where the instances are physically located. (Edit: it's in the "General FAQ", not in the "Server FAQ".) I really, really like the idea, but t…

The IPv4 address is independent of any one server. Think of it kind of like L2 / L3, when a packet gets to its final network the L3 address is translated to a L2 address (ARP typically with ethernet / IP) with the L3 frame wrapped by a L2 frame. So think of this more like L2 is now a combination of classic L2 and the lower end of L3. It's sort of halfway between home router style NAT and switching; and yes, I'm sure it runs as close to full speed as switching does. This kind of set up is very common in cloud based services that support live migration (not that this service does; it's bare metal).

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

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Post by scottyab » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 3:18 PM UTC

superasn wrote: post #72

JosephRedfern wrote: post #17

I've just signed up for one of these instances - here are some speed tests/stats/details, if anyone's interested: https://gist.github.com/JosephRedfern/57c81ac95bf4f1175e3e If you'd like anything in particular running, let me know and I shall oblige when I can!

Do you think it is possible to run the android emulator on this server? Or will it be an issue because it's running on armhf?

Looks like Android support is on the coming soon list, you can vote it up https://www.scaleway.com/imagehub/

Re: ARMv7 dedicated servers for 3.40 per month

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Post by Tepix » Thu, Sep 03, 2015, 3:28 PM UTC

They have made a couple of customizations to the regular Linux bootup that have severe security implications (i.e. download kernel modules from them among other things). Contrary to a "classic" dedicated server, with this configuration you are very much trusting them unless you make changes.

Read https://www.scaleway.com/docs/create-an-image-from-scratch/ and ideally set up a server and look at what exactly is going on.

Unfortunately the script on that page has some errors (it references missing files and it's missing some files that are required), they should really go over it and fix them.