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Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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People still use download managers? I honestly had no idea.

DTA was pretty good for its download acceleration abilities. That's still useful, especially for content hosted far away.

Yeah, I don't doubt it. I've been spoiled by living close to the data I want to download. I imagine that people at the far end of attenuated links would have a very different experience.

Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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This seems like a classic case if thinking people use your software for the core features you develop. I hate to break it to you but people don't use windows for the control panel. Firefox and other browsers have become development platforms and many of their "users" don't use their platform for its 'control panel,' they use it for some useful tool built on top of it. To use a linux kernel term, this breaks userspace…

> To use a linux kernel term, this breaks userspace (might be a sign that browsers have some serious OS envy).

No, the equivalent of breaking userspace would be breaking the Web platform. This is more like breaking the in-kernel API for .ko modules—and the official Linux policy on this is [1]. Firefox has always been much less inclined to break its internal XPCOM APIs than the Linux kernel has been to break its internal in-kernel APIs.

[1]: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/...

Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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Speaking of Download managers - Chrome still doesn't have a decent one and I for one will miss DownThemAll if it goes away - it is definitely a useful piece of software. Wonder what the new signing and addon development policies will do to FF market share - there won't be any reason not to just use Chrome anymore. I get the security part but the reason I use FF is because it is less memory hungry and has these extens…

I used to use DTA on Firefox but switched a few years ago to native ones. I ended up writing one http://maxelapp.com/ which works for Macs. It can intercept downloads from Chrome with a chrome extension

Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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I'm maintaining two Add-Ons with around 20k active users. I agree with his predictions, but I also find it hard to give to much attention to voices like the one expressed here. It's hard for me to tell how much of this is genuine concern, or just how many donations or how much income he will loose because of this. I never see numbers from these Add-Ons. The one in question here has 1,300,000 daily active users. Sure,…

What does the developer's monetary incentive have to do with the issue of FF deprecating the API? This article would have been just as valid as if it came from a company who made money selling FF extensions.

Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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post #18

There is no piece of software in the world harder to secure than a browser. There's almost no other piece of software where compromises have higher stakes. Further, the verdict is probably in on whether browsers should use multi-process sandboxes, and how careful they need to be about privilege-escalated Javascript, which is an enormous loophole for runtime security measures like ASLR and DEP. Firefox's multi-process…

idk, better extensions / plugins is the main reason I use firefox, easily.

Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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I'll be pretty upset if the addons that let you modify the Firefox UI via XUL have to go away. Tree-style tabs[1] for example is one of the major extensions keeping me with FF. There's really no alternative for Chrome since they can't completely change the tab UI like Firefox can. Check out the screenshots!

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: The likely end of DownThemAll

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I'd say the worst that can happen is an extension that compromises security of the browser to the point that malicious people can take control of your online accounts such as email, bank accounts, source code on github, etc. That can happen intentionally but more often unintentionally. For example as you need to communicate between JS living in chrome (not the browser) and the webpage, it's easy to open a hole b…

I've got a few plugins that provide very useful tasks but aren't very trust-worthy. You might think that's insane but everything has a risk. I do disable those add-ins when I don't need them. Security is not an absolute -- it's a trade off.

I would wager that your attention to security as it relates to addons puts you in the minorty when compared to the Firefox user base.

It is great that you are security aware but what about the masses?

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