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Couldn't agree more. These days we have to protect ourselves more from our own software than from viruses. Assume any software is a trojan horse, even the OS.
Or you could use free software.
Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
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Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#72I wonder what foreign governments such as China and Russia are going to do about this. How are they going to secure their networks from surveillance?
Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#73Is it really necessary to use a host that requires JavaScript to display an image? Anyway, I've confirmed this. I've disabled web search and all of the other privacy options I've seen with Windows 10 during and after install. As soon as the first character is typed into the Windows 10 search box, the request goes out to www.bing.com. It doesn't say what you searched for (as the request happens before you complete the…
Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#74This also happens on iOS with spotlight. As far as I can tell there's no way to turn it off. Source: MITM your iOS traffic. Sidenote -- a possibly unforeseen side effect of end to end encryption everywhere is that it makes it far more difficult to man in the middle your traffic and hold companies accountable for their privacy policies.
It's pretty simple if the OS you're using allows you to install a trusted root CA certificate.
Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
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It's pretty simple if the OS you're using allows you to install a trusted root CA certificate.
Except apps like this should probably not be using the OS CA store, and instead just pin their own CA cert. Doesn't seem to be the case here but in general I think pinning is getting more adoption, isn't it?
Most people, even most developers seem to be pretty clueless with this stuff.
Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
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Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's pretty simple if the OS you're using allows you to install a trusted root CA certificate.
Except apps like this should probably not be using the OS CA store, and instead just pin their own CA cert. Doesn't seem to be the case here but in general I think pinning is getting more adoption, isn't it?
Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#78I wish this was happening on my machine so I could investigate, but it's not. Searches in Start ask if I want to search the web then open a browser. I have the default search settings.
However, it does download some app images that are displayed in my start menu for apps that are advertised in a "play and explore" category in the Start menu.
If I select Settings in the search menu it says "Online search isn't supported in your region". I can enable Online Search, but even then I need to explicitly select "Web" as opposed to the default "My Stuff" before it opens a browser and connects to Bing.
This machine including privacy settings was migrated from Windows 8.1. When I installed that I selected custom settings and disabled most of the privacy sensitive settings.
Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#79Re: Windows 10 phones home when you search your start menu, even with Bing disabled
#80This also happens on iOS with spotlight. As far as I can tell there's no way to turn it off. Source: MITM your iOS traffic. Sidenote -- a possibly unforeseen side effect of end to end encryption everywhere is that it makes it far more difficult to man in the middle your traffic and hold companies accountable for their privacy policies.
For example, you may leak information about sites recently visited, updates applied, etc. if you have a local proxy cache and subsequently look at response timings.