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Re: Google Reader shutting down

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Can someone explain to me why no one is doing a direct, pixel for pixel clone of Google Reader? I mean, the thing is popular enough that any startup would die for its traffic. Not to mention its users absolutely love it. As Paul Bucheit said, it's better to have a small number of users who love your product than a large number that like it. And well, Greader has a large number of users who love it (bordering on fanatical about it). So why not do a blatant clone as a f* you to Google for nuking a product that its users are absolutely devoted to.

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#692

Can someone explain to me why no one is doing a direct, pixel for pixel clone of Google Reader? I mean, the thing is popular enough that any startup would die for its traffic. Not to mention its users absolutely love it. As Paul Bucheit said, it's better to have a small number of users who love your product than a large number that like it. And well, Greader has a large number of users who love it (bordering on fanat…

While not quite pixel to pixel oldreader seems to be quite close, they want to be close to the older UI which makes it even better in my eyes. They are sort of keeling over with the new load, but have scheduled an import, will see how it goes. Unfortunaately as of now they only import the subscriptions not he stars.

Not sure how they plan to support the service.

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#695
A year ago near last Google Reader redesign I made my own online RSS-reader http://www.cliws.com/ and now don't care.

We should less depend on the large corporations. The idea about I think last time is that we need some kind of distributed Twitter (like we have perfectly worked distributed email now).

If you can't replace one tool with another you are in trouble definitely.

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People have said repeatedly that RSS is dead, and that's apparently true, but I've been wondering for a few years now what has replaced it? It's not like social networks provide the same kind of service, really. So is getting updates from people and projects you care about really such a niche thing? Have I missed some other huge channel that supersedes RSS? Or are we about to actually lose something profound here? Ku…

> So is getting updates from people and projects you care about really such a niche thing?

My guess is that it is. Anecdotally, I would guess that only my programmer or tech industry friends and me seriously care about getting updates from projects, or from people they don't know socially IRL. I would guess that my non-programmer friends want social updates from people, which social networks do provide, and they are somewhat interested in what the rest of the world is talking about, but just as a form of entertainment, so there's no need to group all the updates together because it's just as fun to check each individual site every now and then.

I guess there is a crowd of political news buffs too, people who would want comprehensive coverage of various takes on various recent events, but I don't know any personally (who aren't also programmers). If you don't care about multiple points of view then reading one or two newspapers or magazines is sufficient and there's no need for a feed reader.

There's also journalists and PR people whose job involves keeping up with zillions of updates.

And podcasting.

So, my guess is, yes, it's just a niche: programmers, a small subset of news buffs, media professionals, and podcasting.

Looking at the bright side, it doesn't matter to me if most websites drop RSS as long as the ones most relevant to my niche continue to use it; so if RSS becomes forgotten about by most people but is still used by websites that target programmers and by news websites, that's enough for me.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could be an oversight. I think "manage my contacts" is a default permission requested when not explicitely setting the scope in OAuth...

This is not an oversight, it's even mentioned in their privacy policy [0], although I also stopped at that point. Whenever I see a service requesting permission to even have a look at my contact list, I really wish there were a button like "No, I really don't need this social stuff because I know noone in my contact list uses your service anyway and if someone does, I really don't care". [0] http://theoldreader.com/p…

Thanks. That rules out the Old Reader for me. I think they should make it optional: only ask for this permission if I try to use the social functionality.

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#699
I've got to mention the FF add-on "InfoRSS" which I haven't used in a while, but I just exported my feeds to it rather painlessly and it offers some nice features if you're willing to put a bit of time into customizing what you want from it. Deals with podcasts as well.

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#700
Lots of people rushing to build RSS clients, but why not build something better?

If you can build something that will take any URL, figure out which bits are changing regularly (the news items, etc), and push the changes to a Reader style interface, you might be on to a winner.

It's 2013, a reader should be possible without RSS.

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