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Re: Grok 4.6

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A trait I share with dictionary editors is a preference for linguistic descriptivism, so for me it's not a real problem that the common definition of "sex" and the scientific use are different. Unfortunately, reality doesn't care at all about the categories humans create, so there's always some exception like the following two no matter how you try to cut reality at the joints with word definitions. Even in humans, w…

A wall of text that agrees with the fact: human males cannot be pregnant. Intersex defects prove the point that human males cannot become pregnant. Thanks for playing.

> A wall of text that agrees with the fact: human males cannot be pregnant

You need a lot more practice reading if you think this was a wall of text.

> Intersex defects prove the point that human males cannot become pregnant.

If your preferred (culture-warring yourself into thinking you know more than all the doctors whose job is to work on this) definition of "male" is simply "can't get pregnant", aside from all the thigs wrong with that, it also means you'd have to accept that if and when a womb gets transplanted into someone who was born without one, they changed gender. This is a thing being researched.

Worse for you: it is trans men (i.e. identified female at birth, transitioned to men) who have the capacity pregnant, though only in certain conditions that I'm not qualified to enumerate. If they have a hysterectomy as part of their bottom surgery, no pregnancy, so do you accept they're men afterwards?

Me, I prefer to go by simple (clothed, even) exterior phenotype, it doesn't require invasive scans or being a creep.

Re: Grok 4.6

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A wall of text that agrees with the fact: human males cannot be pregnant. Intersex defects prove the point that human males cannot become pregnant. Thanks for playing.

> A wall of text that agrees with the fact: human males cannot be pregnant You need a lot more practice reading if you think this was a wall of text. > Intersex defects prove the point that human males cannot become pregnant. If your preferred (culture-warring yourself into thinking you know more than all the doctors whose job is to work on this) definition of "male" is simply "can't get pregnant", aside from all the…

>You need a lot more practice reading if you think this was a wall of text.

You need a lot more practice writing if you think this wasn't a wall of text.

>If this definition of "male" is simply "can't get pregnant"

Males definitionally cannot. Humans are gonochoric mammals: only females can become pregnant.

>aside from all the thigs wrong with that, it also means you'd have to accept that if and when a womb gets transplanted into someone who was born without one, they changed gender.

Nothing was wrong with my statement of biological fact. Only human females can become pregnant. There's no changing from male to female. Uteruses are human female reproductive organs. Ovaries are human female gonads.

>Worse for you: it is trans men who have the capacity pregnant, though only in certain conditions that I'm not qualified to enumerate.

Trans-men are human females.

>If they have a hysterectomy as part of their bottom surgery, no pregnancy, so do you accept they're men afterwards?

They are still human females, just surgically altered human females.

>Me, I prefer to go by simple (clothed, even) exterior phenotype, it doesn't require invasive scans or being a creep.

Me, I prefer to go by simple (factual, even) biology, it doesn't require invasive delusions or being a creep.

Re: Grok 4.6

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we have free speech, don't be so gullible. you think Chinese citizens can go out in the streets and say anything they want. pathetically ignorant.

We're not China no, but where's Snowden right now? Free speech doesn't make the government not authoritarian. It's not binary either.

That's true, it's a spectrum. And the US has wayyy more free speech than even Great Britain.

I'm a fan of Snowden, but suggesting that we're living in an authoritarian state because he's in exile is a stretch, IMO.

Re: Grok 4.6

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in reality even the mention of a prohibition is enough to make the model reject that no matter what

That’s just not true. There are bypasses that happen all the time.

the fact that sometimes someone finds a way to workaround the rules doesn't make them a ""suggestion"" they are very solid, just not absolute

Re: Grok 4.6

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We're not China no, but where's Snowden right now? Free speech doesn't make the government not authoritarian. It's not binary either.

That's true, it's a spectrum. And the US has wayyy more free speech than even Great Britain. I'm a fan of Snowden, but suggesting that we're living in an authoritarian state because he's in exile is a stretch, IMO.

It's a spectrum, we've got it better than others but still ruled by an oligarchy that thrashes our rights including speech
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