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Re: Siri AI

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Post by matchbok3 »

thewebguyd wrote: post #361
Terretta wrote: post #355

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Destroying competition by removing the consumer choice for vertical integration in service of strong security, privacy, reliability, etc.... is mistaken. It's competing at the wrong level. The iPhone is a toaster. Nobody's up in arms about whether the toaster takes other manufacturer's crumb tray. It's a television, and nobody's demanding QLED and OLED be swappable. It's a console. Xbox doesn't play PS5 games. It's f…

Nothing about allowing others equal access to the OS means that someone can’t still choose Apple’s first party services and products. It’s not an either/or thing, it’s about preventing so called gatekeepers from anticompetitive behavior via favoring their own accessories and services while simultaneously preventing any others from possibly competing. There’s no valid reason at all a third party smartwatch shouldn’t b…

We already have user choice - it's called buying an iPhone or not. Nobody is forced to buy an iPhone, or a smartphone at all.

The EU is just a disaster with these laws. They can't innovate so they do this.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by lurking_swe »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

i have not tried it since i’m too scared to try, but i know Codex recently came out with a feature where it can control your chrome browser. Not spin up a chrome browser, but control your open browser tabs.

Presumably you might be able to task it with planning an itinerary with specific dates and bookings in mind, and then ask it to complete the task…sort of. The big gotcha i think is payments. Obviously you wouldn’t want to enter your credit card details into an llm lol. perhaps it would be ok if you had a saved card on file with your favorite airline, etc? Or maybe chrome has a feature to autofill a credit card for quick entry? Not sure.

Still…it’s a messy unsolved problem and we’re definitely not there. I wonder how this tech will look in 10 years from now?

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jeffaf »

zmmmmm wrote: post #438

It's interesting how anemic the use cases seem to be - we see the same things recycled over and over: "reword my email", "remove object from picture", "add a reminder", "summarise my text message which was already only 20 words long" etc etc. As if these are the major problems in people's lives. I really feel like there's a fascinating valley of death between simple things that actually work and things of real value…

Skill issue. I've had gpt5.5 help me plan a vacation. It even pointed out where I could save money. I did the actually bookings but it created the plan.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by brucifer »

speak_plainly wrote: post #35

The demo Mike Rockwell gave at WWDC was interesting. He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone. I hope this is the direction Apple is going to continue in. Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.

> He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone.

This is a truly damning comparison. In Star Trek, the massively powerful ship's computer is mainly ignored in favor of touchscreen interfaces and the natural language voice controls on the computer are mainly used for making tea and occasionally asking a question, which the computer often can't answer or answers incorrectly. All real work is done using other interfaces.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by mathisfun123 »

__jonas wrote: post #590
kristianc wrote: post #465

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An alien landing on earth consuming Apple marketing content would be under the impression that humans did nothing but organise hikes to Big Sur with their friends.

A classic: https://maxread.substack.com/p/a-literary-history-of-fake-te...

this shit is so normcore that i'm honestly embarrassed

Re: Siri AI

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Post by marcosdumay »

watwut wrote: post #593
djaro wrote: post #569

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I think theres some real use cases in the household department. I would love an AI that I just tell my nutrition goals (I want to eat X calories, Y protein, Z fiber, hit all vitamins) and it just generates a full meal plan for me each day. Like, I go to the store and it made the complete shopping list for me. And automatically updates the rest of the day if I tell it I skipped a meal or ate a snack.

Eating disorder as a service does indeed sound like a business plan.

Some people would use the GP's idea that way, yes.

But that's absolutely not what he's describing. He wants not to think about it, that's exactly the opposite of a disorder.

Anyway, an LLM assistant is also exactly the worst technology to use there, on every dimension.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by jiscariot »

9dev wrote: post #530
idle_zealot wrote: post #442

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Even the aspirational use cases you're talking about basically are just "digital secretary." There's a massive problem with that even if the models end up being capable in the future. The value of a secretary is that you know them, they know you, and you trust them to do things right. There are stakes if they don't. No company can provide that as a service at scale for everyone without it being a disaster. Not becaus…

The vast majority of people never even asked for a personal assistant, because that isn’t something normal people have or do need in the first place. They aren’t so occupied/privileged/posh to need someone to do the trivial tasks of daily life for them. This whole venue of technology is an exercise in ivory tower construction completely disconnected from ordinary people.

In the US, every time I file my taxes, I wonder what % of people don't meet the cognitive barrier to successfully file. I suspect a large portion of people offload tax filing to a service or accountant for numerous reasons, which is basically a personal assistant.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by cosmicgadget »

flohofwoe wrote: post #545
kristianc wrote: post #465

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An alien landing on earth consuming Apple marketing content would be under the impression that humans did nothing but organise hikes to Big Sur with their friends.

I remember a couple of years ago it was all about booking a table at a restaurant, as if this would be the main spare time activity of people in the Apple bubble. I wonder when the shift from restaurant bookings to outdoor activities happened. Maybe a pre- vs post-Covid thing?

Yuppie skateboarding videography was also a classic.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by abustamam »

Planktonne wrote: post #657
macintux wrote: post #641

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> It's a use-case that is either inefficient or inhuman, and I find it really odd that it's one that you value. You could have simply asked without denigrating the commenter.

I don't read my comment as denigrating; discussions will naturally involve disagreements. I do think that the sententious tone-policing of yours and other comments is injurious to discussion.

There's a difference between a simple disagreement and a judgment on a person's use of technology based on a rather mundane task.

> That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying to automate it.

"weirder" has a pretty negative connotation, hard not to see its usage as denigrating.

"what should be a moment or connection" is an assumption on what the moment actually is. All OP mentioned is that they want to turn off one light in one bedroom. Your comment invented a narrative about what that must mean and then made statements on the narrative that exists only in your mind.

I don't think anyone is trying to "tone-police" you I think people just disagree with your take.

Re: Siri AI

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Post by Planktonne »

abustamam wrote: post #699
Planktonne wrote: post #657

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I don't read my comment as denigrating; discussions will naturally involve disagreements. I do think that the sententious tone-policing of yours and other comments is injurious to discussion.

There's a difference between a simple disagreement and a judgment on a person's use of technology based on a rather mundane task. > That's even weirder though, because you're taking what should be a moment of connection/care and trying to automate it. "weirder" has a pretty negative connotation, hard not to see its usage as denigrating. "what should be a moment or connection" is an assumption on what the moment actua…

You're literally focused on tone, critiquing connotations rather than substance.

It's difficult to have a discussion if a bunch of unrelated people jump in not to add but to quibble about phrasing. If you don't want to discuss anything, just don't involve yourself.

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