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Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by bko »

dwroberts wrote: post #612

Didn’t we just go through several weeks of hearing about OpenAI allowing its tech to be used for conducting warfare? Not saying that justifies harming Altman but I am confused that he seems surprised he is now in physical danger? [Or chalks it up to just some single specific incendiary article rather than the companies actual actions?] If you involve yourself in the act of killing people then, yeah, you’re going to g…

> Didn’t we just go through several weeks of hearing about OpenAI allowing its tech to be used for conducting warfare?

Unfortunately warfare is a thing. Why wouldn't you want the best technology used for your country when conducting warfare? Or do you just believe warfare would cease to exist if a country gave up any means of defense or offense?

Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by nl »

dwroberts wrote: post #612

Didn’t we just go through several weeks of hearing about OpenAI allowing its tech to be used for conducting warfare? Not saying that justifies harming Altman but I am confused that he seems surprised he is now in physical danger? [Or chalks it up to just some single specific incendiary article rather than the companies actual actions?] If you involve yourself in the act of killing people then, yeah, you’re going to g…

The US is still a democracy.

It's absolutely ok to oppose war.

It is absolutely not ok for "some people to want to hurt" someone who is running a company that is vying for contracts from a democratically elected government's defense department.

It's also ok to protest that, to boycott it or to refuse to work for or with them for it. But escalating that to physical violence is not ok, and nor should people be "confused that he seems surprised he is now in physical danger"

(As an aside, from the statements I've heard so far it seems the person was more an anti-AI, anti-tech person than anti-war)

Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by hi5eyes »

brysonreece wrote: post #675
AllegedAlec wrote: post #670

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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If you work to inflict violence on others, you shouldn’t be surprised when it’s attempted to be inflicted back on you. I’m not saying it’s a just worldview, but it is pragmatic.

openai dug themselves into a hole with all their rhetoric

“we’re going to replace white collar jobs and also help the trump admin with a war no one wants” great comms team lol…

Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by sensanaty »

richardlblair wrote: post #679
Capricorn2481 wrote: post #667

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> The rest of what is written doesn't matter. This isn't the moment for that conversation That's terrible that someone did that. I think that's wrong, and people that do that should be in prison. But if the rest of what was written didn't matter, it wouldn't be written. He thought it was important enough to put it in. It's there to be read and discussed. And I have to point out, we're not talking about a couple off t…

Another comment lacking any compassion. The man was reeling from what happened. He blames himself and his work. He sat and he wrote, naturally it came back to OpenAI. Should he of? Probably not. But it's understandable that he did. We can meet the moment with some understanding and give the guy a little wiggle room.

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Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by Arodex »

arrowsmith wrote: post #649
pydry wrote: post #639

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Not ok, but anybody who is ok with terrorizing, say, an Iranian civilian nuclear scientist ought to be equally indifferent to this.

I’m not indifferent to either of them, but if you equate American tech executives with agents of the Iranian nuclear programme then I don’t care what you have to say on any subject ever

Altman and other AI evangelists spent their time equating AI with nuclear technology. They make the comparison all the time.

Re: Sam Altman's response to Molotov cocktail incident

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Post by consumer451 »

dang wrote: post #575

I don't think I've ever seen a thread this bad on Hacker News*. The number of commenters justifying violence, or saying they "don't condone violence" and then doing exactly that, is sickening and makes me want to find something else to do with my life—something as far away from this as I can get. I feel ashamed of this community. * Edit: It would have been clearer to say "I've never seen a mob dynamic this bad on Hac…

It would be a huge loss and a real shame if you left permanently.

I don't know how often you get to take a real vacation, somewhere away from the Internet and the USA, but this might be a good time to consider taking one?

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