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#692Earlier quoted context omitted.
Military service in the west is not for defence. Irak, Iran, Syria, Vietnam...
It is for the defense of the American national interests and friend nations: - Iraq: 1) to expel Iraq from Kuwait, and 2) weapons (though this turned out to be mistaken) after the 9/11 attacks - Iran: we don’t need another nuclear nation - Syria: destroy terrorists (ISIS), enforce the red line on chemical weapons, and to protect US troops (when we attacked Iran-supported militias) - Vietnam: to stop the spread of com…
Yeah, by such definitions any country is justified to wage a war and always find a way to claim it’s for self-defense (which is indeed how most causus belli have worked throughout the history – they always claim to have the moral high ground when launching the war). This is also how essentially in every country it’s called the Department of Defense (unless you’re Trump) but that means nothing as they start wars all the same. Not a trace of any rules, accountability or restraints still remains under such a framing.
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#693How does feminism survive if this becomes the norm? If young men feel like they're expected to give more to their society it's natural to expect renumeration financial, socially or politically. Nordic countries don't seem to have this problem, but their conscription laws are quite relaxed compared to what the future will likely hold. A declining youth population almost certainly means greater youth repression (higher…
I think it's misleading to credit what is happening in germany to feminism. It's a very toxic ideology and the best thing is to leave if you are discriminated by this (e.g. as young white heterosexual male).
It's not a toxic ideology at all. Sounds like you're misinformed by the social media. You should read a couple of books or see talks, or anything apart from Youtube comment section, really.
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We're not having this conversation in a cultural vacuum; men figure out at a young age that if things go to shit, their lives become expendable for the sake of the community. I view conscription as a form of slavery; something that I hope never happens to me or anybody, but could conceivably happen. That's the way the world has worked for thousands of years, and the Bayesian meme asks me to therefore bet on it contin…
Why should men sacrifice and die for nothing, by not getting anything in return, not even a simple appreciation? Why should only men die when things get tough? I also would much rather see other unknown women die, than to send myself or my son to die for them. Women need to pull their weight. And since they aren't doing that from the evolutional POV, neither in practice (birth crisis) nor in theory (not like giving b…
> What not to love about this equality!
Are you really for equality? Did you support women in this for the last couple of decades? Please be honest.
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#695Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is for the defense of the American national interests and friend nations: - Iraq: 1) to expel Iraq from Kuwait, and 2) weapons (though this turned out to be mistaken) after the 9/11 attacks - Iran: we don’t need another nuclear nation - Syria: destroy terrorists (ISIS), enforce the red line on chemical weapons, and to protect US troops (when we attacked Iran-supported militias) - Vietnam: to stop the spread of com…
Yeah, by such definitions any country is justified to wage a war and always find a way to claim it’s for self-defense (which is indeed how most causus belli have worked throughout the history – they always claim to have the moral high ground when launching the war). This is also how essentially in every country it’s called the Department of Defense (unless you’re Trump) but that means nothing as they start wars all t…
Correct. The strongest always wins.
Also it’s not defense. It’s national security what matters.
Prior to WW2, almost every nation called it “ministry of war.” The defense branding is a modern woke framing to appease the masses.
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Can I move to whichever dimension it is you live in?
? The United States Army is something different...
Struggling to see the relevance, but, thank you for teaching me this:
The U.S. Army is the permanent, professional standing land force (Regular Army, Reserves, National Guard),
while the Army of the United States (AUS) was a temporary, authorized component used primarily during major wars to rapidly expand forces through draftees and volunteers.
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#698I looked through some related recent discussions, interestingly somebody[1] pointed out that this has long been the case in some countries where the military service is mandatory, such as Switzerland (even though the threshold of continuous absence for applying for such a "military vacation" is longer, 1 year in the Swiss case): https://www.armee.ch/de/militaerdienst-urlaub
[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/luftablassen/comments/1s33z9v/wtf_g...
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#699Nobody's going to bring up the sexism? I thought feminism was for equality. Why then no complains of not having equal responsibility here? Just like when Ukraine did this, nobody cared. No complaints in the media at all. They always want more women in the offices too, never in the coal mines.
I wonder how the trans issue will work in this instance.
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I think it's misleading to credit what is happening in germany to feminism. It's a very toxic ideology and the best thing is to leave if you are discriminated by this (e.g. as young white heterosexual male).
It's not a toxic ideology at all. Sounds like you're misinformed by the social media. You should read a couple of books or see talks, or anything apart from Youtube comment section, really.
Whatever passes for feminism these days is toxic and a far cry from the idealism and drive for equality that borne it.
These days it’s only social-media driven culture war of hateful men that blame all the problems of the world to women vs hateful women that blame all the problems of the world to men.
The way out is not “manosphere” or “feminism” but understand that 1) we are different despite the claims to the contrary and 2) all are deserving of respect and we need both to have a healthy society.
We won’t get there with DEI initiatives, female quotas and remaking movies with a ‘diverse’ cast, that’s just posturing and stoking the growing fires of culture war to the benefit of social media operators.