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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

techblueberry wrote: post #452
thewebguyd wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely true. The designation only applies to projects that touch the federal government, or software developed specifically for the federal government. Contractors can still use Claude internally in their business, so long as it is not used in government work directly. A complete ban would be adding Anthropic to the NDAA, which requires congress. The DoD designation allows the DoD to make contractors certify th…

The language in the tweet was " Effective immediately, no contractor, supplier, or partner that does business with the United States military may conduct any commercial activity with Anthropic." Is that just his fantasy or?

You know, it's an interesting question what happens when the commander in chief makes a pronouncement like this. PROBABLY everyone will just ignore it and go with the actual technical definitions of these things, but...I mean it is an order.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by mcphage »

blhack wrote: post #671
nilkn wrote: post #660

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic specifically called out systems "that take humans out of the loop entirely and automate selecting and engaging targets". I take that to mean they don't want the military using Claude to decide who to kill. As a hyperbolic yet frankly realistic example, they don't want Claude to make a mistake and direct the military to kill innocent children accidentally identified as narco-terrorists. At least, that's the…

Right. Did the DoW ask for that? Or does Anthropic make a product that does that?

I certainly wouldn’t give them the benefit of the doubt.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by cyberge99 »

runlaszlorun wrote: post #636
n0x1103 wrote: post #547

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the entire administration negotiates in bad faith. literally every agreement they sign whether it's international trade or corporate contracts is up to the whim of a toddler with twitter

You pretty much nailed it. I can't even get outraged at any given instance now that the trendline is so staggeringly clear. I can't see anyway this ends well for the US. I say this as both an American and a military veteran.

Never in history has an authoritarian ceded power without massive violence.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by jibal »

tgma wrote: post #96
Analemma_ wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you are the one lying trying to get political gotchas here. There is no "trying to exert veto power" absolutely anywhere, Anthropic's terms were laid out in the contract the Pentagon signed, which they want to forcibly amend. If they didn't like the terms, they didn't need to sign the contract.

What are you suggesting here? US government breaching the contract already signed? I am not aware of that happening here. > Anthropic's terms were laid out in the contract the Pentagon signed, which they want to forcibly amend. It's called negotiation in business. I am sure both sides are clear-eyed on what the consequences were and Anthropic made a calculated bet (probably correctly) that some segment of their emplo…

> I am not aware

People have noticed.

> It's called negotiation in business.

The bad faith in this statement alone is almost equal to the sum of it in the rest of your comments.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by kalkin »

nelox wrote: post #678
_fat_santa wrote: post #230

The disconnect here for me is, I assume the DoW and Anthropic signed a contract at some point and that contract most likely stipulated that these are the things they can do and these are the things they can't do. I would assume the original terms the DoW is now railing against were in those original contracts that they signed. In that case it looks like the DoW is acting in bad faith here, they signed the original co…

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It's not recent news that Anthropic has (had?) DoD contracts. This is a lot of words to write while seeming ignorant of basic facts about the situation.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by linuxhansl »

Hats off to Anthropic for not wavering here.

Supply-chain risks means "the potential for adversaries to sabotage, subvert, or disrupt the integrity and delivery of defense systems, including software, hardware, and services, to degrade national security".

So now Anthropic is an adversary, because it does not want "fully autonomous weapons" or automated mass surveillance? Sure thing, DoD. Go use Grok or whatever, I'm sure that will go great.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by txrx0000 »

This is why you can't gatekeep AI capabilities. It will eventually be taken from you by force.

Open-source everything. Papers, code, weights, financial records. Do all of your research in the open. Run a 100% transparent organization so that there's nothing to take from you. Level the playing field for good and bad actors alike, otherwise the bad actors will get their hands on it while everyone else is left behind.

Stop comparing AI capabilities to nuclear weapons. A nuke cannot protect against or reverse the damage of another nuke. AI capabilities are not like nukes. Diffuse it as much as possible. Give it to everyone and the good will prevail.

Build a world where millions of AGIs run on millions of gaming PCs, aligned with millions of different individuals. It is a necessary condition for humanity's survival.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by tastyface »

roysting wrote: post #683
Loughla wrote: post #631

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I'm guessing you're being down voted because people don't know if you think that's a good thing or not. I do not think it's a good thing. Do you?

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Personally, I'd like to do everything in my power to make nationalists feel unwelcome on this site. (But I think OP was merely being descriptive.)

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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Post by flyinglizard »

spaghetdefects wrote: post #607
RivieraKid wrote: post #495

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Is making effective weapons evil?

Given the history of US military adventurism and that we’re about to start another completely unjustified war of aggression against Iran, yes. Absolutely yes.

Whether it's justified or not depends on what you're trying to achieve. If your goal is to deny nukes from Iran, then the war is entirely justified.
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