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A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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I am sick and tired of these teenagers and their sharing of bash oneliners on insta.

Obviously the solution is to ban their use of all social media so those pesky bash oneliners can't be shared in the first place!

Absolutely not, that would prevent profits to big political donors. Instead we should ban bash oneliners, or ID gate them. No loops or pipes (etc) unless you've handed over government issued ID.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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I'm not sure what the solution is, but to steel man a bit, the alternative is kids have access to all the adult spaces, where they will be groomed. A website/app serving grooming content to a kid is just so incredibly unlikely compared to a kid being groomed as the result of having unrestricted access. Since I do not see a solution, and you see identifying children as a risk, what do you see as a solution for kids be…

The solution is parental liability.

So say one of the 50% of children that have unrestricted access goes somewhere they shouldn't, or interacts with people they shouldn't. How is it detected so the parents can be held liable? What does the implementation look like to you?

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Jet engines - Frank Whipple (England) and Franz Ohain (Germany) invented them. In both cases the governments were not interested in them until flying jet aircraft were demonstrated. Lockheed was ordered by the government to abandon their jet engine project and focus on piston engines instead (which resulted in the US having to get started on jet aircraft by buying British machines). Human genome - J. Venter was the f…

No company ever got a man to the Moon. Sure, some companies participated in the process. But it was a government that did it. It's been more than 50 years and private companies haven't been able to match it. The greatest technical achievement of mankind was done by a government. Private industry could, at best, help. Sorry all the other things you name are great. But the winner is government.

And nobody went back to the moon.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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I agree. I feel the flow of having browsers send some flag to sites is the most privacy-preserving approach to this whole topic. The system owner creates a “child” account that has the flag set by the OS and prevents the execution of unsanctioned software. This puts the responsibility back on parents to do the bare minimum required in moderating their child’s activities.

What would be even more privacy preserving would be to mandate sites to send age appropriateness headers (mainstream porn sites already do this voluntarily). Possibly it could be further mandated that the OS collect relevant rating information for each account and provide APIs with which browsers and other software could implement filtering. And possibly it could be further mandated that web browsers adopt support fo…

Yes this is a really simple fix. The first line if your post says it all. If they really wanted to protect children, you would put the responsibility on the services on the other end. This is about mass surveillance or disadvantaging open source solutions

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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To which freedom loving state should they go?

New Hampshire

https://www.thecentersquare.com/new_hampshire/article_a56893...

Putting "Live Free or Die" on your license plates doesn't make it true.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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New Hampshire

https://www.thecentersquare.com/new_hampshire/article_a56893... Putting "Live Free or Die" on your license plates doesn't make it true.

What does this have to do with software distribution?

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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The solution is parental liability.

So say one of the 50% of children that have unrestricted access goes somewhere they shouldn't, or interacts with people they shouldn't. How is it detected so the parents can be held liable? What does the implementation look like to you?

The same way anything illegal is detected: a police report.

Re: A new California law says all operating systems need to have age verification

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What would be even more privacy preserving would be to mandate sites to send age appropriateness headers (mainstream porn sites already do this voluntarily). Possibly it could be further mandated that the OS collect relevant rating information for each account and provide APIs with which browsers and other software could implement filtering. And possibly it could be further mandated that web browsers adopt support fo…

I think you would find widespread support from the various websites out there for this. Most porn websites today voluntarily implement some type of mechanism that advertises them as not for children.

The issue is how does the browser know the age bracket of the user in question so it knows to not load content with those headers? The API this bill mandates is the missing half to make those headers actually useful without specialized browsers/3rd party plugins.
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