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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Are there any wallet-shaped Airtags yet? That's the one thing keeping me from ditching my Tiles.

Nomad makes Find My compatible cards. https://nomadgoods.com/in/products/tracking-card

Can vouch for the nomad. Battery is about 6 months and can be wirelessly recharged in a day. Speaker is a bit quiet but functional. Updates reliably and frequently.

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I grew up in a small city in the US and was taught early on to never leave any property in view in your car. The US also has a worse issue than other parts of the world because people often leaves guns in their cars.

did you feel really smart putting that totally made up "because people often leaves guns in their cars" in there?

You obviously didn't Google this, since there are states in America where the people are PROUD to show off the guns and gun racks in their trucks. Yes, they proudly display these guns. (Texas, looking at you)

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Not on Earth, no. It would be if stalking happened at the same frequency as property theft, but the rates are ridiculously lopsided. So much property theft happens that we don't bother reporting almost any of it.

Frequency isn't really an issue here. I don't care that much if someone steals my luggage. I'd be a little mad if someone took my bike, but I have redundant protection for it, along with other things of more importance, or I keep them on me. But I'd really, really not like to find out someone was following me around.

If society didn't have to spend the amount of resources that it does dealing with the consequences of personal theft then it would have more resources to direct towards issues like stalking.

I bet Apple could produce some really interesting data from these tools and others that could be used to proactively target stalkers and investigate them before their actions escalate to violence.

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>What is real banana? How much processing is allowed for it to be still real? Considering the selective breeding of banana, is banana even still real? This is arbitrary subjective qualifier, goes somewhere between "isoamyl acetate" flavoring chemical and organic wild forest bananas. I would subjectively say that any grown bananas is REAL while isoamyl acetate made by rectification of amyl acetate is not REAL banana.

Is Baking Powder considered a “chemical”? How about sodium bicarbonate and monocalcium phosphate? Maybe people are simply reacting to chemical-sounding words.

Add some artificial bacon flavouring, starch and you will get "beef flavoured product" which most people would call "chemical".

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Airtag is the reason of why I stil have my favourite hand luggage. I had just sat down on the train from Zurich to Basel. Suddenly, someone sat down in front of me. He looked suspicious, but I didn't pay much attention. Just before the train departed, he picked up what I thought were his belongings and left. Twenty minutes later, already on the way to Basel, I looked toward where I had left my suitcase. It was gone.…

I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

Last year here in Chicago my wife's bike was stolen overnight. It has an airtag hidden in a bell on the handlebars. When we woke up and noticed it was missing, we traced it to a park not too far away. We ran over there and called the Chicago PD who showed up in <10min. We told them a description of the bike and showed where FindMy said it was. They went and retrieved it. Surprisingly happy ending & I was impressed the Chicago PD were so helpful!

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Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. Initially they didn’t have it, people complained, now they do, and people still complain.

fortunately stalkers can now use Flock, so they don't need to buy airtags.

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I think you'll find it's not so much about how likely the event is (stalking vs theft) as it is about the potential impact of the event. The things you want to "protect" with an invisible AirTag are, at their core "just stuff". The things being protected by not selling an invisible AirTag are, at their core "people".

I think if my car is stolen, it's probably a bigger deal for me personally than stalking. I'm not a female, so I don't anticipate a civilian stalking me for really any reason. A non-civilian wouldn't use an airtag. Zero stalkers are stopped because of airtag policies, since many other devices exist.

There are infinitely better ways to protect your car from being stolen than putting a fucking AirTag in it, and as a bonus you can buy all of them without sounding self-centred and flippant about real threats to other people.

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UK police is more interested in combating wrong thought

Oh for gods sake, can we stop this nonsense mad twitter trope spreading through HN. Having been a cop in the UK, we will happily got nick a robber if they're on the move and tell us where they are, and we don't arrest people for "wrong thought" on twitter unless that happens to be repeatedly messaging your ex and telling her about how you're going to do murder them. yes, some of my stupid colleagues will once in a bl…

>once in a blue moon

>look inside

>12000 arrests a year

https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-a...

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Building an attachment point into the tag itself is still beyond current technology though. We just don't know how to do it.

The fundamental issue preventing keyring aperture integration stems from the AirTag’s reliance on inverse-phase magnetic reluctance in the structural substrate. You see, the enclosure maintains a precisely calibrated coefficient offramular expansion. Introducing a penetrative void would destabilize the sinusoidal depleneration required for proper UWB phase conjugation. The resulting spurving bearing misalignment coul…

tldr: users just keep holding Airtags wrong.

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Absolutely not the case. This is just what overly online people think.

Tbf, it's not the case that they are more worried about wrongthink because they're just not worried at all by petty theft - or almost any other instance of micro-criminality.

Would you believe me if I said the police aren't worried about it because even if they put in the effort and catch thieves, they won't be prosecuted very hard. Since 2014, "low-value shoplifting" (under £200) in England and Wales can only be tried in the Magistrate's court and have a maximum sentence of 6 months (now ~1 year since 2024), no matter how many summary offenses you're convicted of. So if you steal under £200 of stuff, hundreds of times over, it's the same outcome. You'll be back on the street very soon.

The government is currently seeking to amend that:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/crime-and-policin...

> The bill will remove the perceived immunity granted to shop theft of goods to the value of £200 or less, by repealing Section 22A of the Magistrates’ Court Act 1980 and the legislation that inserted it (section 176 of Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014).

> This will ensure that all offences are tried as ‘general theft’ (an either way offence with a maximum custodial sentence of seven years), instead of summarily in the magistrates’ court, unless the defendant elects for jury trial

"Either-way" here means that the offence can be tried either as a summary or indictable offence; an indictable offence can carry much more serious penalties.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/section/176

> 22A (1) Low-value shoplifting is triable only summarily.

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