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Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by jdiff »

a_victorp wrote: post #664
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

I see a post like this every time there are news about ChatGPT or OpenAI. I'm probably being paranoid but I keep thinking that it looks like bots or paid advertisement for Gemini

The consistent side comments about the interface to Gemini being "half baked" probably doesn't fit into that narrative.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by cc62cf4a4f20 »

yberreby wrote: post #320
cc62cf4a4f20 wrote: post #175

In other news, been using Devstral 2 (Ollama) with OpenCode, and while it's not as good as Claude Code, my initial sense it that it's nonetheless good enough and doesn't require me to send my data off my laptop. I kind of wonder how close we are to alternative (not from a major AI lab) models being good enough for a lot of productive work and data sovereignty being the deciding factor.

Would you share some additional details? CPU, amount of unified memory / VRAM? Tok/s with those?

MBP M4 Max 64MB - haven't measured the tokens/sec, feels slower than Claude, but not unbearably

It's not yet perfect, my sense is just that it's near the tipping point where models are efficient enough that running a local model is truly viable

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by nathants »

mmaunder wrote: post #405

Weirdly, the blog announcement completely omits the actual new context window size which is 400,000: https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-5.2 Can I just say !!!!!!!! Hell yeah! Blog post indicates it's also much better at using the full context. Congrats OpenAI team. Huge day for you folks!! Started on Claude Code and like many of you, had that omg CC moment we all had. Then got greedy. Switched over to Codex…

Usable input limit has not changed, and remains 400 - 128 = 272. Confirmed by looking for any changes in codex cli source, nope.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by AstroBen »

namesbc wrote: post #685

So the rosy biased estimate is OpenAI is saving 1 hour of work per day, so 5 hours total per-work week and 20 hours total per-month. With a subsidized cost of $200/month for OpenAI it would be cheaper to hirer a part-time minimum wage worker than it would be to contract with OpenAI. And that is the rosiest estimate OpenAI has.

What people here forget is coding is a tiny minority of the actual usage. ~5% if I remember correctly?

Their best market might just be as a better Google with ads

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by whazor »

dmd wrote: post #348
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

I consistently have exactly the opposite experience. ChatGPT seems extremely willing to do a huge number of searches, think about them, and then kick off more searches after that thinking, think about it, etc., etc. whereas it seems like Gemini is extremely reluctant to do more than a couple of searches. ChatGPT also is willing to open up PDFs, screenshot them, OCR them and use that as input, whereas Gemini just igno…

I agree with you. To me, gemini has much worse search results. Then again, I use kagi for search and I cannot stand the search results from Google anymore. And its clear that gemini uses those.

In contrast, chatgpt has built their own search engine that performs better in my experience. Except for coding, then I opt for Claude opus 4.5.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by seg_lol »

amluto wrote: post #622
solarkraft wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Only downsides are in the polish department What an understatement. It has me thinking „man, fuck this“ on the daily. Just today it spontaneously lost an entire 20-30 minutes long thread and it was far from the first time. It basically does it any time you interrupt it in any way. It’s straight up data loss. It’s kind of a typical Google product in that it feels more like a tech demo than a product. It has theoreti…

Claude regularly computes a reply for me, then reports an error and loses the reply. I wonder what fraction of Anthropic’s compute gets wasted and redone.

Try using a VPN, my ISP was killing connections and claude would randomly reset. Using a VPN fixed the issue.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by razster »

goobatrooba wrote: post #359

I feel there is a point when all these benchmarks are meaningless. What I care about beyond decent performance is the user experience. There I have grudges with every single platform and the one thing keeping me as a paid ChatGPT subscriber is the ability to sort chats in "projects" with associated files (hello Google, please wake up to basic user-friendly organisation!) But all of them * Lie far too often with confi…

The latest of the big three... OpenAI, Claude, and Google, none of their models are good. I've spent too much time monitoring them than just enjoying them. I've found it easier to run my own local LLM. The latest Gemini release, I gave it another go but only for it to misspell words and drift off into a fantasy world after a few chats with help restructuring guides. ChatGPT has become lazy for some reason and changes things I told it to ignore, randomly too. Claude was doing great until the latest release, then it started getting lazy after 20+k tokens. I tried making sure to keep a guide to refresh it if it started forgetting, but that didn't help.

Locals are better; I can script and have them script for me to build a guide creation process. They don't forget because that is all they're trained on. I'm done paying for 'AI'.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by aix1 »

citizenpaul wrote: post #676
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

What?? Am I using the same gemini as everyone else? >OCR is phenomenal I literally tried to OCR a TYPED document in Gemini today and it mangled it so bad I just transcribed it myself because it would take less time than futzing around with gemini. > Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. >coding I asked it to update a script by removing some redundant logic…

Was that with Gemini 3 Pro or a different Gemini model?

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by retsibsi »

xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #563
WheatMillington wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I generate fun images for my kids - turn photos into a new style, create colouring pages from pictures, etc. I lost interest in chatGPT because it throws vague TOS errors constantly. Gemini handles all of this without complaint.

You feed ai slop to your children? That doesn't seem unhealthy and bad for their development?

What's your specific concern here? I certainly wouldn't want to, e.g., give young kids unmonitored use of an LLM, or replace their books with AI-generated text, or stop directly engaging with their games and stories and outsource that to ChatGPT. But what part of "generate fun images for my kids - turn photos into a new style, create colouring pages from pictures, etc" is likely to be "unhealthy and bad for their development"?
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