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Genuine question: If one wanted to get in on the Trump grift, and had no moral qualms, how would you do it? Can you come up with a realistic fast path to snag, say, $5 million within 2 years from Trumpland?

I don't think the direct approach to Trump or his inner circle would be ideal, considering how crowded the field of professional grifters and griefers surrounding him is. You'd really have to stand out to get noticed.

But they've recently lost a key connection to the broader MAGA youth movement. A quick-witted young person with good public-speaking skills and a psychopath's morals could step into that role without much difficulty, perhaps acting as a bundler for GOP political contributions that could then be skimmed. The retirement plan sure sucks, though. And you wouldn't want to be too overt about it, or you'd risk ending up like Steve Bannon.

It may also be possible to get in with the Girardist movement associated with Peter Thiel and J. D. Vance. A few weeks' intensive study would likely allow you to sling eschatological BS with the best of them. You'd get paid on the lecture circuit, again following the trail blazed by Charlie Kirk, spreading the good news about mimetic theory and the bad news about Greta Thunberg.

Then there's the covert approach. Karl Rove has long since quit the field, Lee Atwater is dead, and Roger Stone isn't getting any younger. There's always money on the table if you're willing to do what the other guy won't. Trouble is, there are plenty of people willing to do anything for Trump, now that the rewards have become so transparently obvious. The same question keeps coming up... in a field full of seasoned crooks, what can new talent do to get noticed by the right people and overlooked by the rest?

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The White House is a pretty significant symbol of this country, so yeah, I think they might care that a big chunk of it was just torn down.

Go to a Walmart in Ohio or Wisconsin and ask. Ask what % will change their next vote because of it

Please don't place the burden of proof on others with absurd tasks.

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The White House is a pretty significant symbol of this country, so yeah, I think they might care that a big chunk of it was just torn down.

Go to a Walmart in Ohio or Wisconsin and ask. Ask what % will change their next vote because of it

I think that's the wrong way to view the problem. Think about it this way: before Nixon resigned his approval rating was still 23%.

You can get a quarter of the country to say yes or not care for any given question no matter how obviously dangerous or stupid. But having a 25% approval rating would be very, very bad.

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Did you miss all the Biden pardons, including unprecedented pardons for crimes they may commit?

Are you equating Trump's pardons and commutations to Bidens? For review, Biden's were largely for non-violent drug offenders and preemptive pardons for people like Anthony Fauci and federal employees prosecuting Jan 6 defendants and the like. Save for his pardon of his son Hunter (who's own prosecution was littered with politics), Biden's were largely pedestrian.

Biden commuted many, many murderers and rapists -- not just "non-violent offenders". It was not pedestrian. Here are two: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-12-24/biden-co...

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Pardon count per president: President Count -------------------------------- Joe Biden ~8,064 | Donald Trump ~237 | Barack Obama ~1,927 | George W. Bush ~200 | Bill Clinton ~459 | George H.W. Bush ~77 |

Median net worth of pardonees? 6500 of Biden’s are for marijuana offenses. Not exactly corruption there.

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If we can't figure out how to get a Congress that most people believe in then I worry that is the beginning of the end for this government. Hopefully we get to try from scratch a third time if that happens but I worry that collapse will be too tempting for Russia or China to not step in. Maybe we can be lucky and get conquered by Canada first in that case? What a weird thing to think...

Approval ratings for Congress, barring a post-9/11 spike, have been under 30% for most of my life. By this standard I'd say we're in the middle of the end.

For the most part, folks like their own Congress people though. They just don't like the others.

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Biden pardoned several family members

Along with various other people to try to protect them from malicious political prosecution. Much like how Comey, Bolton, and a variety of current and former government officials are now being prosecuted on questionable charges.

The Bolton investigation started in 2023, during the Biden admin.

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Truly don’t understand the equivalence here.

I will help: people don't like it when the presidential pardon is used for self-serving shit.

How is pardoning people like Fauci, or even Hunter, that Trump was clearly going to target as part of an "enemies" list, more "self-serving" than literally pardoning anyone that makes you/give you millions of dollars?

(Changpenh Zhao - made him billions; Trevor Milton - donated $1.8 million; Walczak - his mom donated millions)

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Nope, Biden pardoning his son was also widely condemned across the political spectrum as an abuse of the pardon power.

No. Almost everybody hated it out of context, but in context many understood that one man was about to obtain unprecedented power over all three branches of government and use it to vindictively pursue personal vendettas. These people were correct, this then happened.

Personally, I’m reminded of how every dysfunctional country’s deposed regimes flee or are killed. We sheltered Americans find it easy to forget that peaceful transfer of power is an accomplishment of lawful society, and as rule of law weakens we have only more chaotic, ignominious, and probably eventually violent transitions to look forward to.

Reaction to the Biden pardon is a pretty huge thing to be completely unaware of. You should reevaluate whether you’re in a media bubble.

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Polling on it has been bad even amongst Republicans it isn’t great. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/devastating-poll-reveals...

The ballroom is scheduled be ready in January 2029 assuming no delays. But by that time Trump will be at the end of his term. So is he doing this for future presidents (would be very much unlike him) or is he planning to stick around after Jan 2029?

He wants to stick around

The life expectancy tables are kinda against it though

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