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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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The fact that we're talking about this using terms like "sides" is the problem. American politics has long since stopped being about policy, but is treated like a sport where you follow your "team" and defend them no matter what. It's as though people are incapable of having thoughts on an issue more complex than "does my side think this is good or bad?" and suddenly those who disagree with you are evil, and with par…

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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I'm mildly curious what the reaction to this will be compared to the reaction to other recent political murders, like the Hortmans, or of Thompson. That said, I think people need to recognize that in many aspects what's happening is connected to societal issues that gun control and gun regulations will have very little impact on - remember, even in Japan somebody could make some kind of battery ignited home-made shot…

Trump was golfing instead of attending the funeral of the Hortmans and used their death to insult Tim Walz. He didn't order flags flown at half mast like he's now done with Kirk. Notable conservative publications like National Review barely covered the Minnesota shooting. He also mocked the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.

So I would say the reaction will be quite different, given that Kirk was a political ally and not a Democrat.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Am I wrong in thinking this guy isn't/wasn't a very influential person, outside of Twitter and the people that stay on there 24/7? If so, why even target the poor guy? What change was the person who shot him hoping to elicit? Either way, I hope he makes it, even though it looks like it was a fatal blow

The Economist did a briefing on him in July which explains his increasingly large influence pretty well.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/07/18/charlie-k...

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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This man died promoting non-violence.

I don't think that does his memory justice. He would not like to be described that way.

Remember his accomplishments, like fighting for the freedom of the man who attacked Paul Pelosi with a hammer.

To say he promoted nonviolence is an insult to the things he stood for and the vision he had for America.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

#697

There are a number of outspoken people on the other end of the political spectrum from me, that I vehemently disagree with. While I would love to see their words either ignored or condemned by the masses; I have no desire to see them killed or harmed in any way. I wish more people on both ends of the political spectrum felt that way. Either committing or supporting violence against those we disagree with, has no plac…

The number of people I’ve seen basically condoning this act is sickening. This guy had views I 100% disagree with, and wish did not have a platform to espouse them.

But his children no longer have a dad in their life. That is just heartbreaking to me. It’s hard for me to understand people who are so wrapped up in political rhetoric that they think taking a person’s life is acceptable.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

#698

The fact that we're talking about this using terms like "sides" is the problem. American politics has long since stopped being about policy, but is treated like a sport where you follow your "team" and defend them no matter what. It's as though people are incapable of having thoughts on an issue more complex than "does my side think this is good or bad?" and suddenly those who disagree with you are evil, and with par…

It’s also stupid to be talking about “sides” when we don’t even have a handle on the shooter.

It could be a random crazy person, a Democrat, Trump supporter pissed off that Kirk was trying to help Trump move past the Epstein stuff or any number of in-betweens.

And you can knock off the white washing of Kirk’s political life. In recent memory, he has advocated for military occupation of US cities, making children watch public executions, and eschewed the idea of empathy. This “well, he said it in calm voice” handwaving is spineless.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

#699

This is nuts. I am deeply worried we are headed towards open armed conflict. The violence against political opponents must stop, no matter who it is.

Political violence is apparently on the decline in America. At least that’s what a study concluded late last year

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/22/us/politics/political-vio...

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