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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by Spooky23 »

jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

They’ve shrunk the phone so much that the bump is the computer + optics, strapped to a screen and battery.

The Air and Pro are essentially the same with a different skin. It’s a big deal imo as the phone itself is practically modular. It’s pretty brilliant as they can make the computer part in China and Taiwan and probably ship that unit to various locales for different form factors.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by dbg31415 »

I'm genuinely bummed that Apple killed the Plus iPhone.

For years, it was the perfect sweet spot -- bigger screen and bigger battery without the Pro price tag. It was especially great for elderly users: easier to read, easier to hold, and they didn't have to pay $1,000+ just to get a phone they could actually see and use.

The jump from the base model to the Plus was usually just $100, but you got a noticeably larger display and often better battery life -- the kind of practical upgrade most people actually cared about.

Now, if you want a larger screen without breaking the bank... well, you can't. Apple's lineup basically forces you into the Pro models, which feels like a loss for accessibility and for people who just want "big and simple."

I wish they'd kept the Plus around. It wasn't flashy, but it served a real audience.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by layer8 »

altairprime wrote: post #619
scblock wrote: post #99

That is the dumbest side profile I have ever seen. The camera bump and camera together are thicker than the rest of this thing. By its design it now demands a massive case or just won't ever sit even reasonably flat on a table. Ridiculous.

Right now I have to lean my phone on my purse to get a nice reading angle, because the lens block is lopsided and my phone wobbles around otherwise. The Air bump is still a better angle than flat, and I bet the lens doesn’t keep it from resting stably on the lower edge of the chin (?) rather than the lens edge.

No, it wobbles and doesn’t rest on the lower chin. Look at the Verge hands-on video on YouTube.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by __marvin_the__ »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #216
creer wrote: post #167

"Impossibly thin" is right in line with Patrick McGee's "Apple in China" who argues that the main reason for Apple's designs is to keep imitators at bay by introducing manufacturing challenges that only they can meet. Indeed impossible at the time of release. One generation after the other. He estimates this gains them about 6 months of headway. Tough world. (Yes, to be fair, there is more to this new phone than just…

Is anyone buying an iPhone because it's slightly thinner than other phones? I've never heard anyone say the width of the phone was their reason for picking an iPhone, or any phone for that matter.

> or any phone for that matter.

I'm strapping phone to my arms during runs; for me, shaving off those extra grams count. Bought an Infinix specifically for this reason. I didn't specifically look for the thinnest but it came the the most lightweight.

Re: iPhone Air

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mgerdts wrote: post #618
aurareturn wrote: post #58

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If you compare the specs of the 10 and 11 series watches you will see they both claim high blood pressure detection. https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/?modelList=watch-series-... In the past few weeks the oxymeter feature was enabled by a firmware update on series 10. Measurements are done on the watch, results are only reported on a phone.

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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by 8ig8 »

nakamoto_damacy wrote: post #465

I have an iPhone 13 mini, just replaced the battery. If you want my money, give me an iPhone 17 mini with small width and height, I don't care about it being thinner like the Air. Also, no AI ruining the image quality of the expensive camera. I saw examples of a consumer-grade digital camera vs an iPhone 16 and the latter introduced "hotdog skin" effect and other effects that made the photos look over-processed.

Reading this and replying on the 13 Mini. Love it so much but wouldn’t mind if it were a little lighter. If it stays the same forever, I think I’d still buy it. Great phone. P.S. I work at home, so battery life is not my biggest concern.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by Schnitz »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #261
jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

iPhone status symbol without having to haul around a huge bulky phone. Most users probably use/need 10% of what a max pro iPhone offers, but they want 100% of the max pro status. Now they can keep the status without needing to carry a chonker.

It doesn’t always have to be status. Apple is very good at withholding features from low end models to ensure everyone has that one thing they want that makes them go for the pro variant.

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Post by jainil »

johanyc wrote: post #666
rifty wrote: post #651

The 16e is 167 grams, where the Air is 165 grams. It feels like the Air is to the 16e what the Pro is to the standard titled iPhone — the expensive version. Which makes the marketing feel a bit incongruent with what we've gotten here. It's not noticeably more lightweight than what is currently offered, it's less featureful than the 17, but more expensive than the 17 (albeit perhaps prettier). It seems like engineerin…

It's also a bit weird that iPhone Air being an Air is more expensive. MacBook Air and iPad Air are the cheaper options in contrast

No it isn't. The cheapest option is the iPad, then iPad Air and then Pro. It'll be the same with macs once the rumored A-chip based mac launches.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by socalgal2 »

creer wrote: post #167

"Impossibly thin" is right in line with Patrick McGee's "Apple in China" who argues that the main reason for Apple's designs is to keep imitators at bay by introducing manufacturing challenges that only they can meet. Indeed impossible at the time of release. One generation after the other. He estimates this gains them about 6 months of headway. Tough world. (Yes, to be fair, there is more to this new phone than just…

This just seems like Apple's reality distortion field in full force. There are already thinner phones. Just like there were thinner laptops than Macbook Air when it was launched but Apple fans in their Apple bubble hadn't heard of them and so bought Apple's propaganda.

I say this as someone that owns 2 MacBooks Pros, an Apple TV and an iPhone.

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