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Can authors even claim such rights though? I doubt think they even had such agency to begin with
If they're the rightsholders, they can do whatever they want with their IP, including changing licensing terms, adding contractual obligations forbidding certain types of use, forbidding sale, etc.
Everything talks about settlement to the 'authors'; is that meant to be shorthand for copyright holders? Because there are a lot of academic works in that library where the publisher holds exclusive copyright and the author holds nothing. By extension, if the big publishers are getting $3000 per article, that could be a fairly significant windfall.
Kinda how like patents will state the human “inventor” but Apple or whichever corp is assigned the rights.
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No you’re missing the point. They acquired market power by killing them through predatory pricing, leaving incumbents unprofitable and forcing them to exit - while creating a steep barrier to entry for any new comers and strategically manipulating existing riders by offering high take rates initially and subsidising rides to create artificial demand and inflate market share - then once they kicked out the incumbents,…
I get why we look on Uber with disdain today. They're the big rich behemoths who treat drivers poorly, previously had a CEO who was a raging asshole, and have now raised their prices (gasp!) to a level that they need to be for a sustainable business. But I remember when I started using Uber back in 2012. It was amazing compared to every single other option out there. Yes, they entered the market in questionably-legal…
Creating the gig economy doesn't get any moral points from me.
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500,000 x $20 = $10 million Obviously there would be handling costs + scanning costs, so that’s the floor. Maybe $20 million total? Plus, of course, the time it would take to execute.
The real expense is in the data centers/hardware. The cost of the books is negligible in comparison.
Once the book is done, 99% of them go into the furnace at the district heating boiler next door. The other 1% back to a developed country for resale.
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> California’s attempt to regulate contractors was a disaster. You have to decide whether you want the society to provide safety nets through healthcare, strong labor protections etc. or not. > Again it’s society’s responsibility to provide for a safety net and to tax corporations to fund it. Indeed. That's why governments and regulators eventually stepped in. You can't in good conscience or good faith argue that Ube…
> You have to decide whether you want the society to provide safety nets through healthcare, strong labor protections etc. or not. My argument is simply that the only “labor protections” the government should enforce on private enterprise is that a company can’t actively harm employees - OSHA protections, discrimination etc. > And yes, it's the literal job of a taxi company to make sure its drivers work a healthy amo…
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This lawsuit also makes sure that only parties that can train an AI with good enough training material are now - Google - Anthropic - Any Chinese company who do not care about copyright laws What is the cost of buying and scanning books? Copyright law needs to be fixed and its ridiculous hundred years tenure chopped away.
From TFA > Anthropic also agreed to delete the pirated works it downloaded and stored. Also > As part of the settlement, Anthropic said that it did not use any pirated works to build A.I. technologies that were publicly released.
Oh so now we're at "just trust me bro" levels of absurdity
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I just want to make sure I understand this correctly. Your argument is that this is all fine because it wasn't done by people who were super rich but instead done by people who became super rich and were funded by the super rich? I just want to check that I have that right. You are arguing that if I'm a successful enough bank robber that this is fine because I pay some fine that is a small portion of what I heisted?…
You're asking me if straight up stealing money from a bank is comparable to stealing books in 2025 to train an AI which will generate untold value for people?
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Knowledge should be free. Unfortunately, OpenAI and most other AI companies are for-profit, and so they vacuum up the commons, and produce tooling which is for-profit. If you use the commons to create your model, perhaps you should be obligated to distribute the model for free (or I guess for the cost of distribution) too.
I don't pay OpenAI and I use their model via ChatGPT frequently. By this logic one shouldn't be able to research for a newspaper article at a library.
They'll either go out of business or make better models paid while providing only weaker models for free despite both being trained on the same data.
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> Everyone has more than a right to freely have read everything is stored in a library. Every human has the right to read those books. And now, this is obvious, but it seems to be frequently missed - an LLM is not a human , and does not have such rights.
By US law, cccording to Author's Guild vs Google[1] on the Google book scanning project, scanning books for indexes is fair use. Additionally: > Every human has the right to read those books. Since when? I strongly disagree - knowledge should be free. I don't think the author's arrangement of the words should be free to reproduce (ie, I think some degree of copyright protection is ethical) but if I want to use a tool…
Knowledge costs money to gain/research.
Are you saying people who do the most valuable work of pushing the boundaries of human knowledge should not be fairly compensated for their work?
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Uber did a great job convincing lay people that taxis were ripoffs and they were a good deal. For some time that was probably true. Now, I see people at the airport walk over to the pickup lot, joining a crowd of others furiously messing with their phones while scanning the area for presumably their driver. All the while the taxis waiting immediately outside the exit door were $2 more expensive, last time I checked.
I know how much my ride will be and I know it doesn't vary based on what happens along the way. L
I happily pay a premium for none of these things again.