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4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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I think that's what this is, the 4k people in NASA probably never would have quit (great benefits or whatever), maybe the strategist at the top (whether they are right or not) think its better for this talent to be concentrated at private firms? And tbf, the private sector does move fast :/

There is no strategist at the top thinking about where this talent is best positioned to do good work.

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Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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Even without that factor, making deep cuts to research funding right before Cold War II: Electric Boogaloo seems like a bad move.

If you were acting on behalf of the other players in the sequel, these would be great moves.

I no longer think he's deliberately acting on their behalf.

He's just so stupid that's equivalent to that.

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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SpaceX’s mission is very explicitly not shareholder aligned, which is why Musk explicitly said he would never take it public or sell his majority stake. The mission is mars and the money making endeavors (starlink) are to bring in the cash to do that.

> The mission is mars It's hard to believe that by now Musk still hasn't realized what a ridiculous idea this is. That realization could explain his weird pivot into e.g. buying Twitter and far-right politics. A midlife crisis triggered by discovering that his childhood dream was just a fantasy.

> It's hard to believe that by now Musk still hasn't realized what a ridiculous idea this is.

Maybe one day Elon Musk will understand space as well as you do.

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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NASA and SpaceX aren't competitors. NASA's mission statement is "explore the unknown in air and space, innovate for the benefit of humanity, and inspire the world through discovery". SpaceX is a p̶u̶b̶l̶i̶c̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶r̶a̶d̶e̶d̶ privately held company whose mission is to increase shareholder value.

Specifically NASA is an exploration and science mission while SpaceX is a lift and transit provider for organizations like NASA. Historically NASA did their own lift and transit because no one else could and they seeded and researched the capabilities that SpaceX and other private ventures do today. This is a fine arrangement because commoditizing delta V is not exploration and science, it’s the means to it. I’d note…

SpaceX's entire mission is to get people to Mars en masse. They revolutionized spaceflight precisely as a part of that mission, not as an ends in and of itself. For instance the Polaris Dawn mission [1] sent humans further into space than we've been since the Apollo Program, intentionally traversed the Van Allen radiation belt, and carried out the first commercial spacewalk, executed experiments and so forth. And all of this was carried out by SpaceX.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_Dawn

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#697

For obvious reasons, the people who are most able to find a good gig elsewhere are the most likely to elect to go do so; and they tend to be the people that you'll miss more.

True, but it can also be those that dislike the job the most, and they tend to be the people that you'll miss less.

Why would they still be there?

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

#698

They'll do this now and then act shocked when some of these ex nasa people end up working in Europe or China lol

Eh. I'm not saying it's a great scheme, but these are almost all people taking retirement a couple years early. China is not interested in stealing 1980s NASA tech, and Europe aerospace is a non-player.

Ageism at its best. Senior folks are stuck in time and only know 80's tech, right ?

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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Trump already wins the golden sledgehammer price, and that's just six months into his term. Even if the sum total will only be eight times that, it will still be the most massive wreck fest the country has ever seen. Any enemy of the U.S. would be proud to wreak that much havoc without firing a single shot.

Re: 4k NASA employees opt to leave agency through deferred resignation program

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That doesn't sound legal.

why wouldn't it be though?

EAR/ITAR restrictions maybe? China at least is ITAR restricted and has a lot of entities on the EAR list. I'm not a lawyer though; no idea what regulations you'd actually be subject to.
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