Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
#692i never made chrome my daily driver. firefox and safari are wonderful browsers.
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So why do people choose Chrome? (I use chrome, but I am unable to articulate why. Surely some of you know why you use Chrome :-))
> So why do people choose Chrome? It’s actually kinda simple: they don’t, at least not continuously. It’s “what you use” because you decided that’s true at some point in the past. All you have to do now is decide that some other browser is “what you use”. You can even take it a step further and decide that Chrome is “not what you use”. (And actually, if you go through with it, you might discover reasons for why you d…
Chrome is explicitly “not what I use” however there are literally services I cannot use on a firefox derived browser so I must have a chromium derived browser installed and occasionally use it.
For a normal user they would just switch back to chrome because that is what works, they don’t care about our complaints, they care that what they want to use works.
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> use Linux except that for a majority of users, windows is where their applications are at - such as gaming, word processing, or some other thing. Sure there are replacements (somewhat) for each of those categories, but they are not direct replacements, and require a cost of some kind (retraining, or a substitute quality). This is esp. true for gaming, and it's only recent that gaming has made some inroads via the s…
I disagree that that's the majority of users. The majority of users either use only web applications, or web applications and Microsoft Office. The true majority of users are on mobile. Windows is only unreplaceable for gamers. Which is fine, because Windows is a toy anyway.
>Windows is only unreplaceable for gamers.
And quite a few musicians. When they make my software for Linux - and, it works ootb - I/ we'll be willing to change.
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
#695Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
PROXOMITRON! Local proxy filter that is like a Pi-hole, but locally! It's OLD, and became obsolete when browser plugins were invented, but now more relevant than ever! Because it's between the server and the client - it can do what it wants!
Wow, that brings me back. I used to use Proxomitron before plugin ad blockers were a thing.
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
#696Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
#697Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find the "switch to Safari" talk amusing because the adblockers available for Safari are functionally equivalent to the MV3 API that everyone's complaining about. The problem with the "static list of content to block" approach that Safari and MV3 use is that you can't trick the site into thinking that ads have been loaded when they haven't, like MV2 allows via Javascript injection. The effect of this is that you'll…
A Safari content blocker can be combined with an MV2 Safari extension in one app for JavaScript injection.
Thank you for the correction, it looks like Adguard uses this approach.
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Switch to v3, and not notice as adtech slowly starts leaking through, such as people have already started seeing on Youtube. The key is to slowly crank up the number of ads that get through, boiling the apocryphal frog.
What is the adtech that's leaking through? I regularly use Youtube with uBO Lite, and it does infact consistently prevent me from seeing ads. I've yet to see a single one. There does seem to be a war going on between Youtube and adblockers where sometimes Youtube will show me a screen saying that adblockers are prohibited instead of playing the video. But usually a full-page reload which I guess refreshes uBO's rules…
There are a lot of different ways to respond to you, since there are so many features that have different effects. But I'll focus on one I care about, related to tracking. UBo can detect cname cloaking, where a provider hosts 3rd party tracking via a CNAME DNS record attached to their domain. UBo can detect this and block it, while the lite version cannot.
If you care only about ads, then you can determine whether the extension is working purely based on your annoyance level while surfing. But I care about tracking as well (CNAME cloaking is one example), as well as the ability to customize the experience (import my own filter lists, for example).
These capabilities aren't present in UBo Lite. So it feels like a real gap to me. For context, I was an avid UMatrix user for a very long time, but Gorhill discontinuing that showed that I was in a tiny minority. Reminds me of when James Gosling told me I was a dying breed because I still used Emacs. If the inventor of the technology doesn't even use it, maybe it's time to move on! =)
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Yes to everything except the first statement: > The answer is antitrust. Anti-trust is crucial to make the capitalist economy work prperly, I agree But another answer is "Firefox"
So why do people choose Chrome? (I use chrome, but I am unable to articulate why. Surely some of you know why you use Chrome :-))
Because, last time I tried it, Firefox decided to force Pocket integration and I accidentally uploaded some of my bookmarks.
Also performance, but the behaviour of Mozilla is the main reason I keep away.
Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update
#700Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.
I just tried firefox because of this update but I had to switch back because it's so slow. Sacrificing competitive advantage stings too much to much just for this.