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Meanwhile Primagen: " I Am Using Cursor - CURSOR FOUNDER TEACHES ME CURSOR!!!!!!! #ad "

Go on, link a video where he actually recommends Cursor.

The point is, you can replace "Cursor" with "hot new dev toy" and it's exactly how his channel functions.

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True, the barrier to becoming a tech influencer are very low now and yet it's harder than ever. This suggests that dumb luck plays an increasing role. Current tech influencers are generally smart and qualified but they aren't experts in anything specific and they aren't innovative in any way. They are chosen by algorithms out of a large pool of possible candidates.

> This suggests that dumb luck plays an increasing role. Nah. It’s not luck. It’s charisma. And skill at performance & in many cases clowning. Some people just have that certain something that makes people enjoy listening to them. It can be learned, but like programming it takes a lifetime to master. And like programming, some people are naturals at it. I know because I’ve been training in improv theatre and clowning…

I don't agree with this position. Primagen worked at Netflix. This is already a massively significant luck component. I watched a video of his where he describes how he got his job at Netflix and it sounds like he got very lucky, by his own account. The brand recognition and network effects of having worked at Netflix cannot be underestimated. I'm sure he also got lucky in other ways. When you really dig into stories like his, you can find so many cases where they got abnormally lucky... Many cases where you're reading and think "wow, that's just not plausible, this does happen in the real world." Like reading the Steve Jobs biography, there are so many things that don't make sense... Like when Steve Jobs was young and he called the CEO of some company asking for some electronic component and they sent it to him... I did a lot of this cold calling when I was younger and nobody ever did that for me, even for much smaller companies and asking for much smaller favors.

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That’s a really interesting take. I say that as I’m the opposite — a slow reader — and I, too, cannot stand learning via video. I’m by no means a weak reader, I love reading and do so often. I just find myself re-reading complex sections to ensure that I understand 100%. I also like to be able to read something and then follow it on a train of thought. For example, if a post/article says that X causes Y because of Z…

I'm also a slow-reader by your standards, re-reading to me is part of the learning process. Going over text with your eyes is not reading, let alone learning. I think your dislike of video over text is because you're a quick learner. Like you said, going on a tangent and researching some word or sentence or statement makes you a thorough learner I think. Eventually you have a quicker and bigger grasp of the subject a…

Thanks mate! I think I consider myself a slow reader as I’ve grown up with my mother and sister who both read at some ungodly pace. They’ll finish 5 books for every one which I finish.

I do agree with the thorough learner aspect. I think having come from physical engineering backgrounds helps a lot with that.

When studying aerospace, for example, there was a lot of ‘but why’ which usually ended up leading to ‘natural phenomenon’ after abstracting far enough.

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> This suggests that dumb luck plays an increasing role. Nah. It’s not luck. It’s charisma. And skill at performance & in many cases clowning. Some people just have that certain something that makes people enjoy listening to them. It can be learned, but like programming it takes a lifetime to master. And like programming, some people are naturals at it. I know because I’ve been training in improv theatre and clowning…

There's no doubt the Primeagen has a popular channel (459K subs at last count), but his videos are super annoying to me. Many of them are just him reading a blog post and adding some light clowning to it. To me it feels like a waste of time...I can just read the article myself a lot faster and the clowning doesn't add any value to me.

I feel the same way. I don’t think you and I are the target audience for him. My read is that his content is actually pitched to a very junior audience - or an audience who don’t really want to read or engage with the blog post themselves. They want to feel smart and entertained without doing any actual thinking.

That sounds like I’m a snob - but I really get it. I’ve been watching Inkmaster lately with my gf - which is a reality tv show about tattooing. It’s super fun sitting on the couch judging all the tattoos they do. It would be nowhere near as much fun if I had to actually think, or do work while watching the show.

I think primagen is like that. It’s kinda like a trashy reality tv show about programming. If you don’t know any programming, you’ll probably learn a thing or two along the way. But you aren’t going to become a great software engineer by watching his channel. Not any more than I’m going to become a great tattoo artist by sitting on my arse, eating chocolate and watching ink master. I still do it. But I wouldn’t call it educational.

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IMHO, the root cause is HTML was/is not designed for building user interfaces. It's amazing what people have accomplished with HTML but, damn, so much work compared to using an actual UI toolkit.

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This is exactly why I am a huge fan of ember.js Unfortunatelly it fell behind in popularity mostly due to some unimportant reasons (eg not being able to render 1M rows faster than react) and some important ones (load times), but boy did they build a stable ecosystem! I haven't seen such a commitment to stability and guardrail upgrades to this day on any other piece of front end library.

I'm thinking of building a long term living app (say an app that I will use the next 30 years). It has to be a web app so I was thinking of going pure JS. With that requirements in mind would you recommend ember.js?

If you MUST use a framework, then yes i would go with ember because they have a prooved commitment to following the web standards rather than creating their own custom standards that they throw away the next year.

Having said that, 30 years are very VERY long time in web development. Maybe pure js isn't a bad call, but it depends on how large it is going to be. Someone else mentioned considering sever rendering, not a bad cinsideration either.

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Yep. That’s basically Basecamp’s philosophy and it’s worked pretty damn well for them. Considering there’s a near-zero chance you won’t be starting the next Facebook or Stripe, “Don’t grow” is a great philosophy. If you do happen to hit that 0.1%, congratulations you’ve got money to tear everything down and rewrite it in the JavaScript framework du jour.

> Considering there’s a near-zero chance you won’t be starting the next Facebook or Stripe This is like gym beginners worrying they'll get too bulky overnight. You don't want to start with a don't grow philosophy. That's a thing to think when you are big enough.

I’d say it’s the opposite. Choosing Rails is understanding what is important. To follow on your metaphor, beginners worrying about becoming too bulky should be worrying about getting adequate nutrition and rest; the basics. That’s Rails.

You can start with a Don’t Grow mentality. I have, and it’s working out great. My company makes choices based on that principle, and we’re profitable. But we understand that we don’t want to be a huge corporate conglomeration and never will be.

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Someone knows some good framework or anything which I could embedd Haskell code in HTML to use in Canvas to see results immediately. I am just started learning Haskell. Someones have some exp.how to use LLMs for speed-up learning of coding in new language with new paradigm?:) Thx!

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Hi, are there any good frameworks which I could use embedding Haskell code in HTML to see results during code changing in Canvas. Someone use LLMs to speed-up programming language? Especially FP. Arebthere some good structured methods for this? Thx.!
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