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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by cableshaft »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

Some autocorrect software automatically converts two hyphens in a row into an emdash. I know that's how it worked in Microsoft Word and just verified it's doing that with Google Docs. So it's not like it's hard to include an emdash in your writing.

Could be a tell for emails, though.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by m3kw9 »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #456
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #445

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Give me a prompt and I'll share the result.

Great! Suggested prompt below: I need help creating a comprehensive Anki deck system for my 8-year-old who is following a classical education model based on the trivium (grammar stage). The child has already: - Mastered numerous Latin and Greek root words - Achieved mathematics proficiency equivalent to US 5th grade - Demonstrated strong memorization capabilities Please create a detailed 12-month learning plan with s…

Would give similar output with o1. This is very simple stuff not needing any analysis or planning

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by gregjor »

beachy wrote: post #662
informal007 wrote: post #649

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This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Diese…

Good luck with that. Fortunately few CTOs/CEOs share your faith in a company already guilty of rampant IP theft, run by a serial liar.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by ed_elliott_asc »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

Does it still hallucinate? This for me is key, if it does it will be limited.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by m3kw9 »

pentagrama wrote: post #329

The argument of more compute power for this plan can be true, but this is also a pricing tactic known as the decoy effect or anchoring. Here's how it works: 1. A company introduces a high-priced option (the "decoy"), often not intended to be the best value for most customers. 2. This premium option makes the other plans seem like better deals in comparison, nudging customers toward the one the company actually wants…

But you are not getting nothing there is actual value if you are able use that much and consistently hitting limits in the 20$ plan.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

thomassmith65 wrote: post #584
TeMPOraL wrote: post #499

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Of course this breaks down once you have a competitor like Anthropic, serving similarly-priced Plan A and B for their equivalently powerful models; adding a more expensive decoy plan C doesn't help OpenAI when their plan B pricing is primarily compared against Anthropic's plan B .

Leadership at this crop of tech companies is more like followership . Whether it's 'no politics', or sudden layoffs, or 'founder mode', or 'work from home'... one CEO has an idea and three dozen other CEOs unthinkingly adopt it. Several comments in this thread have used Anthropic's lower pricing as a criticism, but it's probably moot: a month from now Anthropic will release its own $200 model.

Except Anthropic actually has the ability to deliver $200/month in value whereas OpenAI lost the script a long time ago.

Not a single one of OpenAI’s models can compete with the Claude series, it’s embarrassing.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by galleywest200 »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

This is interesting, because at my job I have to manually edit registration addresses that use the long em-dash as our vendor only supports ASCII. I think Windows automatically converts two dashes to the long em-dash.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by bhtru »

karaterobot wrote: post #599
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #407

I just bought a pro subscription. First impressions: The new o1-Pro model is an insanely good writer. Aside from favoring the long em-dash (—) which isn't on most keyboards, it has none of the quirks and tells of old GPT-4/4o/o1. It managed to totally fool every "AI writing detector" I ran it through. It can handle unusually long prompts. It appears to be very good at complex data analysis. I need to put it through i…

I use the emdash a lot. Maybe too much. On MacOS, it's so easy to type—just press shift-option-minus—that I don't even think about it anymore!

Or double type ‘-‘ and in many apps it’ll auto transform the two dashes to emdash. However, the method you’re describing is far more reliable, thanks!

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

kaiwen1 wrote: post #470

I know a guy who owned a tropical resort on a island where competiton was sprouting up all around him. He was losing money trying to keep up with the quality offered by his neighbors. His solution was to charge a lot more for an experience that was really no better, and often worse, than the resorts next door. This didn't work.

I’m actually kinda surprised. People will pay extra money for the “nice” option many times, even if it’s probably worse than the lower priced options.
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