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South Korean president declares martial law, parliament votes to lift it

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There must be some rule on the internet where if some geopolitical thing happens anywhere in the world at least one person will blame Russia.

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Perhaps but so have those running those "democracies".

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Suddenly the rationale of the 2nd Amendment in the US Constitution becomes clear.

No it doesn't. People out in the streets brandishing their guns would only make the situation worse, not better. It's also worth noting that the 2nd Amendment didn't prevent a January 6 either.

A more interesting take is that 2nd didn't make it suceed. The protesters very well knew it would have been pointless to bring guns to a figher jet fight.

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Something that is missing in all western news that I have seen so far is why the president did that? The only info is that he said that it is to protect the democracy from north Korean supporters in the opposition, but no more details. Does anyone know which action of the opposition triggered that? And why so suddenly? Also, might it be reasonable grounds to his claims or is he just clearly using the martian law agai…

> Something a little bit scary around the world is that it looks like that bad guys are quite active and good at disrupting democracies and elections in free countries (France, us, Romania, moldovia, ...) whereas it looks like that the western world has really low influence to disrupt these countries for a political change.

What's more scary is how quick many people are to blame foreign boogeymen instead having a hard look at their own politicians and the hostile policies they have been implementing. You don't need to disrupt democracies when there is hardly anything democratic left about them.

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If you have a yacht and let him vacation on it, he'll do it!

What would he tell his wife?

"Let me introduce you to the civil union law..."

If he's smart, no-fault divorce would go first, so she couldn't say anything.

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What if there's no solution that has both equity and survival of the society? I don't think we have any known solution yet. Of course if the society collapses, the equity goes with it. By the way, how is women being housewives them at the bottom? Housewives have an equal share of their husbands' income, so they're just as wealthy as men. They also traditionally control what it's spent on. It's just that their job is…

if that's how you wanna put it, then yes. Women should have the same rights to choose which machine's buttons they push.

They don't get to choose though. Single income households are no longer viable for most people because surprise surprise supply and demand works for wages just as much as for everything else.

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From what I can tell Netanyahu was honestly elected. There is still reason to suspect he will be voted out in the next election (if he won the current war in 2 months he would be sure to win) and will peacefully transition power. Only time will tell of course, for now at least it still looks like someone in power that you may not like but honestly elected by his own people.

Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way. The US had to delist some terrorist organisation to make it possible for him to form a government, which went on to intensify the crimes against the palestinians while routinely lying about it, and then shrugged off warnings about the coming attack on October 7th, and then he's been lying about the policy regarding captives, and so on and so o…

> Takes a pretty strong stomach to connect Netanyahu and honesty in any way.

It shouldn't. People are complex - all of them. Many people do both good and bad things. We should celebrate and encourage the good even while condemning the bad.

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Not just link in France. France is in the midst of a government fall, but this is something built into how they do democracy and so a new one is expected to form in a few months on the backs of their democratic process. This is instead a rejection of the democratic process. I don't know enough about SK's internals to say if the democratic process is already dead because of corruption (as the leader claims), or if the…

>Not just link in France. France is in the midst of a government fall, but this is something built into how they do democracy and so a new one is expected to form in a few months on the backs of their democratic process. The longest a French Republic has lasted is 70 years. The fifth republic is today 66 years old. The ordinary can turn into the extraordinary in an afternoon.

Regardless, the current fall of government there is just a call to start elections over again with some new representatives. That is very different from a coup. Of course we are watching things happen - a coup can happen to anyone at any time (including whatever country you live in!), but so far it doesn't look like that.

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They have desires all the time. Most of them will admit it. their actions prove their success at the suppression.

Of course people have desires. My point is that some people have their desires and their values aligned, rather than having desires that run contrary to their values. No "suppression" required.

Sometimes that happens. They also have other desires that conflict with their values at times. This is just a normal part of being a complex human.

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It can be and is done. However it is only by careful effort as your base nature will sometimes do something that isn't a good thing. You are the same type of human as everyone else. There isn't anything special about Stalin that made him evil, all the evil in him could come out of you in the right situation. (and he thought he was doing good).

It doesn't take much effort or care at all to be genuine and good.

Sometimes it doesn't take much effort. Sometimes it takes a lot. Depends on what values and desires are in conflict, what everyone else is doing, how likely you think you are to get caught (not getting caught would of course bring in a different desire into the question), and probably some other values/desires that I can't think of now. Many people set their life up so that they avoid the conflicts they believe would be a problem for them.

People are complex creatures with complex values and desires. Sometimes two values are in conflict (which may be a hypothetical or real situation) so it is impossible to be true to both values at the same time.

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