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ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

bangaroo wrote: post #670
RulerOf wrote: post #591

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"servers" I don't think anybody actually cares, but I resent discord for this terminology.

there is an entire generation conditioned to call any group chat or instance a “server” and the pedant in me absolutely wants to scream every time I hear it I believe the origin, however, was to help it clearly and directly compete with teamspeak or mumble at the time it launched. You would actually have to invest in some sort of hosted server for your group, so the name made sense as a way to help people visualize h…

Relic isn't the word. They've changed/expanded the meaning of the term.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

rglullis wrote: post #622
RulerOf wrote: post #591

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"servers" I don't think anybody actually cares, but I resent discord for this terminology.

I hate it as well, mostly for the fact that people don't understand how Matrix is decentralized. They think "join matrix.org and create a space" as the same as "creating their own server".

Life is hard.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #652
netsharc wrote: post #619

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Asia too. Australia too. So again it's the Fahrenheit users being different... Edit: I looked it up, maybe not Australia...

"Asia too" Hmm. China? No -- WeChat. Japan? No -- Line. Korea? No -- KaoKao.

Your logic is missing a couple steps.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/whatsapp-...

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

aryonoco wrote: post #678
ungamedplayer wrote: post #584

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I don't think everyone did. Maybe it's local to your circle of contacts. From what I remember yahoo barely made a dent here in Australia.

It was absolutely based on location. after ICQ, from what I remember AOL Messenger was the dominant force in the US, MSN was very popular in many countries, but across Asia, Middle East, and many Eastern European countries, Yahoo Messenger was the de facto standard. Not dissimilar to the situation we have today with WhatsApp and WeChat and iMessage. Except back then you could use pidgin or trillian as multi protocol…

The reason no one needs a multiprotocol client now is we all have instant, intuitive multiprotocol devices in our pocket at all times. That's what's changed in the last 20 years.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by neffo »

incompatible wrote: post #530
bayindirh wrote: post #506

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ICQ was the chat tool of the democratic internet, or internet of the people if you prefer the term. After companies started dominating the internet, it was never be the same. We thought that any company would play by our rules, but they poisoned us with their research, gamification, single way information flow, and walled gardens. This is why I moved to small web. I miss the old internet dearly.

It was commercial, wasn't it? And only worked on Windows? IRC was the open alternative.

This was the 90s, so I guess reverse engineering the protocols was simple. There were even Amiga clients of it, like stricq.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

nogridbag wrote: post #477
jraph wrote: post #456

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Wait, it didn't take an entire night to download a 1 sec wav (assuming the worst) file, did it? 1 sec of wav would be 176.4 kB (assuming 44.1 kHz, 16 bits, stereo), or 176.4 * 1024 * 8 bits. That divided by 28800 bits/s (assuming a 28k modem) gives 50.1 seconds. A 96 kHz 32 bit stereo wav would be 768 kB, 4-5 times that so still less than 5 minutes. What am I missing?

This was a very long time ago, so I don't remember all details. But yes the download took hours. This was basically the first website I visited when I got internet access (and I would assume most kids did as well). So this predates 28.8 modems. I believe I had a 14.4 modem, was out in the country, and websites were not stable. This is somewhat of a core memory for me, so I do remember some details clearly. Simply goi…

There's no way a 14.4 modem would have taken a whole night to download a wav sound effect. Not even a 2400 modem would take remotely that long. You were doing something wrong.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

egeozcan wrote: post #577
lxgr wrote: post #308

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Woah, ICQ had peer-to-peer? I thought it was quite centralized! Was that before the OSCAR migration? I only remember Skype being "true" peer-to-peer, with your PC randomly becoming a presence/call relaying "supernode" if you had a publicly reachable IP and good connectivity. Different times!

There were even some tools that showed you the IP, the "real status" and etc. of your contacts. The 9 year old me have felt like the greatest hacker of all time when using those tools :)

Sounds like a very secure platform!

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by anthk »

mattl wrote: post #675
sgarland wrote: post #663

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I can’t imagine that the typical IRC user has any interest in Discord. They are wildly different in every conceivable way.

Unfortunately projects are increasingly using Discord or Slack instead of IRC.

When Discord gets closed, let's see how the projects will manage the loss.

Re: ICQ will stop working from June 26

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Post by realfeel78 »

kergonath wrote: post #469
sumtechguy wrote: post #324

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Then something like trillian to glue them all together.

Adium! It really was a gem of an app. Much better than any other I’d used at the time (or that I have used since, actually).

Miranda was better.
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